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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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any local dealers will have them in a cage in the back. they just gotta spray paint them first.

Don't go to a Dodge dealer though. Mitsu dealers have the African elephant. Straight from the Sahara plains. Domestic dealers get their elephants from the local zoos. Domestic elephants are a lot slower and more cheaply made. When you want the best, go foreign. But as you said, they still get painted by the dealership. You could always save some money and have one of your local shops paint it though.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Know your roots.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Some of you guys need to grip reality here...

1.) The SRT-4 easily outhandles the Ralliart.

2.) The SRT-4 was an anwer to the WRX somewhat, but probably even moreso was introduced to compete in the market with the MSP, SVT Focus, and Nissan SE-R Spec V, and RSX Type S.

3.) No one who drives a Lancer should be calling any other cars interior cheap, or ugly.

4.) No one who drives a Lancer should be critisizing a car for its exterior looks.

TheRAguy, if you want the best performing car in every respect buy the SRT-4. If you want... uhhh... if you want, wait, I can't think of a really good reason to buy a Lancer Ralliart, but if that's the one you want, get it! Wait, gas mileage, I bet it gets better gas mileage, and it's cheaper, and... someone might confuse it for an Evo every now and then!

C'mon guys, give me your best shot, I'm ready!
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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dodge=pile of sh|t
neon=bigger pile
srt4=overpriced fast bigger pile

the only reason I would EVER consider buying an SRT4 is if I was gonna drive it off a cliff. If you like crappy cars that perform mainly in straight lines, buy it. If you want a potential mechanical nightmare, buy it. If you want a fast american car, consider the cobalt SS. I wouldn't buy that either, but at least it's a chevy. It won't fall apart in a week.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike
Some of you guys need to grip reality here...

1.) The SRT-4 easily outhandles the Ralliart.

2.) The SRT-4 was an anwer to the WRX somewhat, but probably even moreso was introduced to compete in the market with the MSP, SVT Focus, and Nissan SE-R Spec V, and RSX Type S.

3.) No one who drives a Lancer should be calling any other cars interior cheap, or ugly.

4.) No one who drives a Lancer should be critisizing a car for its exterior looks.

TheRAguy, if you want the best performing car in every respect buy the SRT-4. If you want... uhhh... if you want, wait, I can't think of a really good reason to buy a Lancer Ralliart, but if that's the one you want, get it! Wait, gas mileage, I bet it gets better gas mileage, and it's cheaper, and... someone might confuse it for an Evo every now and then!

C'mon guys, give me your best shot, I'm ready!
ok, so if I turbo charge my RA and it beats both your evo and the srt4, was that a bad investment? Especially since I probably still would have paid less considering what I paid for my RA brand new?
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike
Some of you guys need to grip reality here...

1.) The SRT-4 easily outhandles the Ralliart.

2.) The SRT-4 was an anwer to the WRX somewhat, but probably even moreso was introduced to compete in the market with the MSP, SVT Focus, and Nissan SE-R Spec V, and RSX Type S.

3.) No one who drives a Lancer should be calling any other cars interior cheap, or ugly.

4.) No one who drives a Lancer should be critisizing a car for its exterior looks.

TheRAguy, if you want the best performing car in every respect buy the SRT-4. If you want... uhhh... if you want, wait, I can't think of a really good reason to buy a Lancer Ralliart, but if that's the one you want, get it! Wait, gas mileage, I bet it gets better gas mileage, and it's cheaper, and... someone might confuse it for an Evo every now and then!

C'mon guys, give me your best shot, I'm ready!
well, hhmmm.. heres how i see it.. when it comes to fwd car.. if i had to choose from the 2.. i say id pick the ralliart.. coz of 2 reason.. u can get it cheap.. 12-13k i think.. and put the remaining money left on to mod the **** outta it.. after that.. u get a nice looking car.. atlest better looking than a neon.. but thats just me.. and if anything..id rather drive a 160 hp car.. that i like.. than drive a 200+ hp car that looks butt ugly! and keep in mind guys.. i dont drive a lancer anymore.. so im not baised.. u can make a ralliart as fast or faster than an srt like any other car.. and i dont get why ure like dont call its interior cheap..dude u have the same dash and all.. door panels.. u just have recaros and a momo.. thats it! so what are u saying? if u think ur interior is high class coz its an evo.. think again.. i hate people like u whos like.. ur lancer suck.. dude.. we all know u drive an evo.. but it doesnt mean u can take shots at slower cars.. so if u wana talk smack.. i have a slow rikidy old 1g talon waiting for u.. and see who has the AWD powah..

hopefully this reminds u..that even thou u buy the most powerful production car out there.. there always someone whos gona be faster.. so chill.. and know u place..

dont mean to flame.. but hes like..im ready.. so i gave it to him.. not all evo owners are like u.. so pick on ur own level..dont diss on lancer guys..coz its given lancers are slow.. but u dont have to rub it in..

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
ok, so if I turbo charge my RA and it beats both your evo and the srt4, was that a bad investment? Especially since I probably still would have paid less considering what I paid for my RA brand new?
Yes
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by xtianLANCER04
well, hhmmm.. heres how i see it.. when it comes to fwd car.. if i had to choose from the 2.. i say id pick the ralliart.. coz of 2 reason.. u can get it cheap.. 12-13k i think.. and put the remaining money left on to mod the **** outta it.. after that.. u get a nice looking car.. atlest better looking than a neon.. but thats just me.. and if anything..id rather drive a 160 hp car.. that i like.. than drive a 200+ hp car that looks butt ugly! and keep in mind guys.. i dont drive a lancer anymore.. so im not baised.. u can make a ralliart as fast or faster than an srt like any other car.. and i dont get why ure like dont call its interior cheap..dude u have the same dash and all.. door panels.. u just have recaros and a momo.. thats it! so what are u saying? if u think ur interior is high class coz its an evo.. think again.. i hate people like u whos like.. ur lancer suck.. dude.. we all know u drive an evo.. but it doesnt mean u can take shots at slower cars.. so if u wana talk smack.. i have a 1g talon waiting for u.. and see who has the AWD powah..

dont mean to flame.. but hes like..im ready.. so i gave it to him.. not all evo owners are like u.. so pick on ur own level..dont diss on lancer guys..coz its given lancers are slow.. but u dont have to rub it in..
My interior is made of cheap plastics and nothing pretty, when I said that I was including the Evo. Congrats on you 1G talon, I moved on from mine about 10 years ago. I'm not taking a shot at the Ralliart because it's slower, I'm taking a shot at the people that don't know what they're talking about, or think a Lancer is a thing of beauty but the SRT-4 is ugly.
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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I would think that most Lancer (including EVO's) are performace oriented in one way or another. I think most people know the capabilities of the SRT-4. We are not talking about it "resembling" a neon. Dodge brought this into the market to target the sport compact scene. To give people a decently priced car to "build".

We are talking about a car that can have easily over 400hp, and done for very very cheap. Talk to some of the SRT-4 fellas, find out how easy to modify it, plus......after all that hp and tq, find out how strong their motor and drivetrain is even after mods. Ok, so you think it has traction issues, well yes it in fact does. However, throw over 200hp and good tq into a lightweight sport compact front wheel drive and see what doesn't. Once fixed up a little, I don't think it looks all that bad, none of any of our interiors lancer/evo's/srt-4's have any bragging rights about our interiors.

In the end, the srt-4 can get cheaper power than almost any car out there, and from what I have been studying and srt-4 gear heads I have spoken with, this is a beast of a car in the making. So if you want all out performance between the lancer and the srt-4, I think everyone knows what to get. but if the Lancer or one of it's affiliated models attracts you, then go with it.

Most problems when someone gets beat by let's say...... an SRT-4, they use the infamous cop-out of..... "it's still a neon". But you will be first to tell people how you beat an "srt-4" if you did. Just like when I would go looking for the porsches and vipers with my cobra, and people would just say it's a cobra. I have been through all this for many years with a del sol, s2000, STI, Cobra, G35, and now my EVO. To me, it's about performance so I may be biased but I would still never put down anyone elses car of choice no matter what my personal opinions were. Our cars are like our women, we work hard to get the best one we can......then work even harder to support and maintain them
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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My interior is made of cheap plastics and nothing pretty, when I said that I was including the Evo. Congrats on you 1G talon, I moved on from mine about 10 years ago. I'm not taking a shot at the Ralliart because it's slower, I'm taking a shot at the people that don't know what they're talking about, or think a Lancer is a thing of beauty but the SRT-4 is ugly.
i mean.. i really dint like how u posted ur thoughts about the lancer.. i mean.. i respect all cars.. i think some cars are nice..but id never own one.. about the 1g talon.. its just a reality check slap.. that everycar has their own class.. an RA is a totally dfirent car from the srt4.. srt4 are boosted stock.. and thye are pretty quick.. and if u think the srt-4 looks better for u..i think u need a doctor.. coz ur sick.. im saying is.. ur foreseing the fact that it is ugly coz its fast.. which other people dont care about.. if u gona wana nice daily driver..id take the lancer over a freakin neon..

no offense Ike.. but sometimes we have to think about stuff we post before we actually post it.. thanks.. now have a good night.

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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I would think that most Lancer (including EVO's) are performace oriented in one way or another. I think most people know the capabilities of the SRT-4. We are not talking about it "resembling" a neon. Dodge brought this into the market to target the sport compact scene. To give people a decently priced car to "build".

We are talking about a car that can have easily over 400hp, and done for very very cheap. Talk to some of the SRT-4 fellas, find out how easy to modify it, plus......after all that hp and tq, find out how strong their motor and drivetrain is even after mods. Ok, so you think it has traction issues, well yes it in fact does. However, throw over 200hp and good tq into a lightweight sport compact front wheel drive and see what doesn't. Once fixed up a little, I don't think it looks all that bad, none of any of our interiors lancer/evo's/srt-4's have any bragging rights about our interiors.

In the end, the srt-4 can get cheaper power than almost any car out there, and from what I have been studying and srt-4 gear heads I have spoken with, this is a beast of a car in the making. So if you want all out performance between the lancer and the srt-4, I think everyone knows what to get. but if the Lancer or one of it's affiliated models attracts you, then go with it.

Most problems when someone gets beat by let's say...... an SRT-4, they use the infamous cop-out of..... "it's still a neon". But you will be first to tell people how you beat an "srt-4" if you did. Just like when I would go looking for the porsches and vipers with my cobra, and people would just say it's a cobra. I have been through all this for many years with a del sol, s2000, STI, Cobra, G35, and now my EVO. To me, it's about performance so I may be biased but I would still never put down anyone elses car of choice no matter what my personal opinions were. Our cars are like our women, we work hard to get the best one we can......then work even harder to support and maintain them
^^^^yep! what he said..
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by xtianLANCER04
i mean.. i really dint like how u posted ur thoughts about the lancer.. i mean.. i respect all cars.. i think some cars are nice..but id never own one.. about the 1g talon.. its just a reality check slap.. that everycar has their own class.. an RA is a totally dfirent car from the srt4.. srt4 are boosted stock.. and thye are pretty quick.. and if u think the srt-4 looks better for u..i think u need a doctor.. coz ur sick.. im saying is.. ur foreseing the fact that it is ugly coz its fast.. which other people dont care about.. if u gona wana nice daily driver..id take the lancer over a freakin neon..

no offense Ike.. but sometimes we have to think about stuff we post before we actually post it.. thanks.. now have a good night.
You should take your own advice, you're representing your opinion as gospel. Personally I don't think either car is anything special to look at, but if forced to make a choice I'll take the ugly fast car over the ugly slow car any day. The SRT-4 is a pretty remarkable performance bargain, I fail to find anything remarkable about the Ralliart. I'm not saying the Ralliart is not a good car, for under 20 grand it is.
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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well, if i had the MONEY, i would have gotten the srt-4 myself. but it was a little pricey, and insurance was outrageous.

on a side note, i've have PLENTY of people that my ralliart looks way better than a evo. i think so myself. i mean, the evo is great. if i had the money, for sure i would get one. but you have to admit that the evo isn't the greatest looking car of all time, i'm not saying my ralliart is either, but i do think it looks better than the evo, and FAR better than the srt-4.

but, like i said, if i had the money, the evo would be my ride, if i could have afforded the insurance, the srt-4 would have been my ride, but the ralliart is my ride and i'm happy with my choice. it's the funnest car i've ever owned and so easy to drive and it is a very good looking car. it doesn't take much to make them quick either.
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike
Some of you guys need to grip reality here...

1.) The SRT-4 easily outhandles the Ralliart.

2.) The SRT-4 was an anwer to the WRX somewhat, but probably even moreso was introduced to compete in the market with the MSP, SVT Focus, and Nissan SE-R Spec V, and RSX Type S.

3.) No one who drives a Lancer should be calling any other cars interior cheap, or ugly.

4.) No one who drives a Lancer should be critisizing a car for its exterior looks.

TheRAguy, if you want the best performing car in every respect buy the SRT-4. If you want... uhhh... if you want, wait, I can't think of a really good reason to buy a Lancer Ralliart, but if that's the one you want, get it! Wait, gas mileage, I bet it gets better gas mileage, and it's cheaper, and... someone might confuse it for an Evo every now and then!

C'mon guys, give me your best shot, I'm ready!
thank you! the RA is a piece of sh_t, so is the SRT-4. they both look like sh_t on the outside and inside. as far as handling, niether is anything special. and to the guy who talked about boosting a ralliart to beat an EVO...riiiight. little thing called, traction. boost does not a better car make. the EVO would still eat your *** alive. RA's handle like sh_t. for the money, i'd take an SE-R, or an 06 Civic Si...most likely the Civic because it's the best looking, best handling, newest, best engineered, most reliable, highest resale, best gas mileage, best built, best quality of the bunch by far. and the **** will run in the 14's in the 1/4. i tried like hell to stop my brother from buying an 05 ralliart...but for some reason he did it. now the Si is out, and he feels like a dumbass. SRT-4's are cheap, poorly constructed, ugly, and a damn dodge. the resale on both the SRT and the RA are horrible. the interiors both suck too...but the RA is better, or should i say, not as bad. i can't really compare my EVO's interior to the RA because i've got a IX MR. it's got a good interior lol
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Originally Posted by Ike
Some of you guys need to grip reality here...

1.) The SRT-4 easily outhandles the Ralliart.

2.) The SRT-4 was an anwer to the WRX somewhat, but probably even moreso was introduced to compete in the market with the MSP, SVT Focus, and Nissan SE-R Spec V, and RSX Type S.

3.) No one who drives a Lancer should be calling any other cars interior cheap, or ugly.

4.) No one who drives a Lancer should be critisizing a car for its exterior looks.

TheRAguy, if you want the best performing car in every respect buy the SRT-4. If you want... uhhh... if you want, wait, I can't think of a really good reason to buy a Lancer Ralliart, but if that's the one you want, get it! Wait, gas mileage, I bet it gets better gas mileage, and it's cheaper, and... someone might confuse it for an Evo every now and then!

C'mon guys, give me your best shot, I'm ready!
Well, this is obviously coming from someone who is proud of the neon heritage. Dude, let me just say this. I no longer have a Ralliart, not because the potential wasn't there when you look at the possibilities the SRT-4 is no longer competition by the way, unless you would really want to mod a worthless neon, but because I wanted the performance of an AWD vehicle which could easily be modded to outperform even the most heavilly modded of neon. Just FYI, you are also talking about a car (SRT-4) which could barely hold itself together (althought so well built, just refer to all of it's earlier models) which can barely (good driver, or not) stock vs. stock pull on a Ralliart. But not to offend you, as I understand how much the neon means to you, and the rest of the UNOA (United Neon Owners Association). Do the math man. Neons are not cool especially if you've your life savings into one to compete with real cars with real potential.



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