Completely Clueless. Please help!
Consdering you're a daily driver with this car, tires wouldnt be such a bad choice. I highly doubt you'd need any high performance rubber unless you're planning to go to AutoX and any sort of strip racing. Tires are expensive and with just upgrading tires, you won't be able to have the engine mods within your budget.
If you go to the RRM website www.roadracemotorsports.com you can see that if you buy the piggyback ECU, cold air intake(aka "CAI), and axleback exhaust system, the dyno sheet specifically with those items together show a gain of 27WHP(horsepower at it's wheels after the lost energy transfering them from your engine to your wheels). THough the gains might be give or take a few hp due to location and other factors, you should be able to feel the gains. So with that package, you'll come up to $459 + $299 + $199(prices might not be correct check website for correct prices) it comes to about $960USD. Maybe have a friend or a relative that knows someone who can install these products to help you, or at least guide you through.
The package of the piggyback ECU, CAI, and the Axleback is probably the most common trio of items owned by Ralliarters.
also, since you say you are kinda clueless about car parts. A cold air intake sucks in more cold air whilst driving and therefore allowing your engine to be more efficient due to the cooler temps and air sucked in. I'm no mechanic or a car scientist, but thats as close as I can come to helping.
If you go to the RRM website www.roadracemotorsports.com you can see that if you buy the piggyback ECU, cold air intake(aka "CAI), and axleback exhaust system, the dyno sheet specifically with those items together show a gain of 27WHP(horsepower at it's wheels after the lost energy transfering them from your engine to your wheels). THough the gains might be give or take a few hp due to location and other factors, you should be able to feel the gains. So with that package, you'll come up to $459 + $299 + $199(prices might not be correct check website for correct prices) it comes to about $960USD. Maybe have a friend or a relative that knows someone who can install these products to help you, or at least guide you through.
The package of the piggyback ECU, CAI, and the Axleback is probably the most common trio of items owned by Ralliarters.
also, since you say you are kinda clueless about car parts. A cold air intake sucks in more cold air whilst driving and therefore allowing your engine to be more efficient due to the cooler temps and air sucked in. I'm no mechanic or a car scientist, but thats as close as I can come to helping.
Last edited by k3lv; Mar 10, 2006 at 08:04 AM.
Originally Posted by otter
At the top of this forum there's a thread you should read, clearly labeled as a newbie thread. There's a LOT of info in there to get you pointed in the right direction. $1,000 can get you covered on the basics - intake, piggyback ECU (alters the amount of fuel going into the engine to make more power), and a suspension mod or two.
Welcome to the Ralliart family. The MIVEC has you!
Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
You got to be the most misleading person I ever met in this forum. Granted that I don't have a Lancer Ralliart and perhaps you know a bit more on that specific car you are no help to this guy.
At first, you told him to not to listen to me on my suggested mods:
(CAI,tuning,header and exhaust).
Then later on you mention that he better get an axle back and a CAI and some tuning from someone that has a map (that is 3 things I already mentioned), so I already matched 3 of the 4 items you suggested.
Then you said pulley and I said header.
What is you issue dude?
Then you ask him to upgrade his tires and suspension?Hellooooo!! his budget was $1000.
Be clear bro, he can't have all that for $1000. By the way, I came out with 4 cat-backs while you only provide 2..
Megan racing
VRS
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Remember bro, I had 9 Mitsubishi cars, 7 of them turbochaged, Mitsubishi upgrades are absolutely prehistoric to me.
This is the quote of the day for you: "Don't try new trick on the old dog"
Peace
Carlos
At first, you told him to not to listen to me on my suggested mods:
(CAI,tuning,header and exhaust).
Then later on you mention that he better get an axle back and a CAI and some tuning from someone that has a map (that is 3 things I already mentioned), so I already matched 3 of the 4 items you suggested.
Then you said pulley and I said header.
What is you issue dude?
Then you ask him to upgrade his tires and suspension?Hellooooo!! his budget was $1000.Be clear bro, he can't have all that for $1000. By the way, I came out with 4 cat-backs while you only provide 2..
Megan racing
VRS
RRM
Ultimate Racing
Remember bro, I had 9 Mitsubishi cars, 7 of them turbochaged, Mitsubishi upgrades are absolutely prehistoric to me.
This is the quote of the day for you: "Don't try new trick on the old dog"
Peace
Carlos
I gave him practical advice he could use and suggested he search to find out more information if he was interested. We should let him be the judge on whether my post was helpful or not, thats not for you to say. You stated he needed some obscure parts he probably doesn't even know what they are(no offense, I am just going by what you posted man
) You then proceeded to tell him he can't expect much without going turbo, which is completely misleading. If you think going from 145-155WHP stock to 215WHP (PR_Mivec) is not good NA, then you should stay on the evo forums. I am not trying to pick a fight with you, and I am very glad you are trying to help. I just dis-agreed with the way you are trying to answer this post. I am going to edit my first post and remove my comments, I suggest you do the same. And since he mentioned it, tires are very expensive(600+$ per set mounted for descent rubber), but you should already be saving for a good set of summer tires so you can really see what the car can do
(at least thats my opinion.)
Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
I kind of agree with you on the traction issues. That explains why the Lancer Ralliarts run high 16's in Tucson SIR all the time.
Carlos
Carlos
Originally Posted by k3lv
Consdering you're a daily driver with this car, tires wouldnt be such a bad choice. I highly doubt you'd need any high performance rubber unless you're planning to go to AutoX and any sort of strip racing. Tires are expensive and with just upgrading tires, you won't be able to have the engine mods within your budget.
If you go to the RRM website www.roadracemotorsports.com you can see that if you buy the piggyback ECU, cold air intake(aka "CAI), and axleback exhaust system, the dyno sheet specifically with those items together show a gain of 27WHP(horsepower at it's wheels after the lost energy transfering them from your engine to your wheels). THough the gains might be give or take a few hp due to location and other factors, you should be able to feel the gains. So with that package, you'll come up to $459 + $299 + $199(prices might not be correct check website for correct prices) it comes to about $960USD. Maybe have a friend or a relative that knows someone who can install these products to help you, or at least guide you through.
The package of the piggyback ECU, CAI, and the Axleback is probably the most common trio of items owned by Ralliarters.
also, since you say you are kinda clueless about car parts. A cold air intake sucks in more cold air whilst driving and therefore allowing your engine to be more efficient due to the cooler temps and air sucked in. I'm no mechanic or a car scientist, but thats as close as I can come to helping.
If you go to the RRM website www.roadracemotorsports.com you can see that if you buy the piggyback ECU, cold air intake(aka "CAI), and axleback exhaust system, the dyno sheet specifically with those items together show a gain of 27WHP(horsepower at it's wheels after the lost energy transfering them from your engine to your wheels). THough the gains might be give or take a few hp due to location and other factors, you should be able to feel the gains. So with that package, you'll come up to $459 + $299 + $199(prices might not be correct check website for correct prices) it comes to about $960USD. Maybe have a friend or a relative that knows someone who can install these products to help you, or at least guide you through.
The package of the piggyback ECU, CAI, and the Axleback is probably the most common trio of items owned by Ralliarters.
also, since you say you are kinda clueless about car parts. A cold air intake sucks in more cold air whilst driving and therefore allowing your engine to be more efficient due to the cooler temps and air sucked in. I'm no mechanic or a car scientist, but thats as close as I can come to helping.
the piggyback does not change timing. nothing that we have for the car right now can change timing, aside from slotting the hoes in the sensor, not something you should concern yourself with at this point. The piggyback takes signals from the computer and modifies the signal before it gets to certain parts of the engine to make the car run different. Specifically, it takes signals for the air and fuel mixture and leans out the fuel(meaning giving less fuel than before the piggyback was installed.)
Originally Posted by DangerousDan
the piggyback does not change timing. nothing that we have for the car right now can change timing, aside from slotting the hoes in the sensor, not something you should concern yourself with at this point. The piggyback takes signals from the computer and modifies the signal before it gets to certain parts of the engine to make the car run different. Specifically, it takes signals for the air and fuel mixture and leans out the fuel(meaning giving less fuel than before the piggyback was installed.)

I gotcha, I didn't really know what the piggyback did, exactly.
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I was afraid to ask the same question asked here, for fear of sounding like a really bad noob... Especially since I've worked on cars for a long time (older cars though, mostly restorals)... One question I do have though, would you recommend a CAI or a SRI? I know everyone has said CAI so far, but what's really the diff? But everyone gave me some good things to think about and definately good help... I didn't ask, but thanks!
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Originally Posted by MitsuSkot
Next lets improve that clutch feel, and the Road Race motorsports Stainless steel clutch line. ($69) A section of stainless steel tubing, with a nut on each end. Again, not too much involved. (just be careful about losing fluid, research bleeding lines)
That RRM clutchline doesn't really change the clutch feel, it changes the clutch response. If you want to change the feel get the Works clutch line. But as I've stated plenty of times on here, replaces the top section of the clutch line is a b!tch, so you better have some patience. That will make you clutch a lot more stiffer. That along with the RRM line will make for a nice clutch upgrade.
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Originally Posted by MitsuSkot
So thats almost half of what you are looking to spend. I would say start with that, DO the work yourself, and get to know your car. If you take your time, follow the directions, there really isn't too much you could screw up. Plus, and trust me on this, if you do the work to your car, the performence gains feel much cooler. you wouldn't pay someone to have sex with your girlfriend, right?
So do that, save the rediculous cost of shop installs, learn about the machine you drive, and love it even more.
Again, these are just suggestions.
Good choice on the ralliart, and welcome to the community
So do that, save the rediculous cost of shop installs, learn about the machine you drive, and love it even more.
Again, these are just suggestions.
Good choice on the ralliart, and welcome to the community
Plus doing your own work will help you learn about, not just your car, but cars in general significantly.
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Originally Posted by kericr
I disagree with everyone on this thread. If you're as clueless as you claim to be, the first thing you need is a trusted mechanic who has the knowledge to work on your car, because you're going to have a tough time installing any mods outside of an intake on your car. Talk to him. Show him this site and RRM. Have him explain to you what parts you how these parts help your car. Once you have a basic understanding, then look at the other posts in this thread again to get an idea of what you can get for the money you're looking at.
I disagree. While having a knowledgable mechanic around is a great thing you shouldn't be deterred from doing you own work if you don't have one. A lot of mods can be done quite easily on your own and other with a buddy helping. As long as you follow the direrctions, do your homework, and ask others (on here for one) you will be fine. When it comes to mods that replace parts under the car or the engine and trans need to be pulled then YES, get a mechanic. For the simple ones I'd suggest doing them yourself. It will help you learn about cars a lot faster.
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Originally Posted by MoWsE&Filly
I was afraid to ask the same question asked here, for fear of sounding like a really bad noob... Especially since I've worked on cars for a long time (older cars though, mostly restorals)... One question I do have though, would you recommend a CAI or a SRI? I know everyone has said CAI so far, but what's really the diff? But everyone gave me some good things to think about and definately good help... I didn't ask, but thanks!
You shouldn't be afraid to ask questions like he did. Being a clueless noob is nothing to be ashamed of. As long as you come across right on here you will not be bashed and your questions will get answered pretty quickly. It's he noob's that come on here with a post that says, "Where can I get the best intake" or "Will Evo seats fit in our cars." Questions like that can be easily answered in seconds on your own if you took the time to look around. Say things like that I you might as well put you flame retardent suit on cuz the fire is coming. lol
Oh yea, to answer your CAI/SRI question: This is a debate that has been going on forever. Technically the SRI is the better option. This is because air will get to your engine faster due to the shorter distance and straight line flow. BUT, there is the little issue of air temperature. In a daily driver (especially during the summer) the air taken in by the SRI will be significantly hotter than a CAI since it gets it air straight from the engine bay while the CAI gets it from the outside. This is why most people will recommend the CAI over the SRI. Now if you pretty much only use the car for racing heat isn't really much of an issue and an SRI would be the intake of choice. But most of us use our cars for daily driving with some doing the occasional racing, so a CAI would probably be the most beneficial.
But as I previously stated, this is a long debated issue and either one is an upgrade over the restricted flow of the stock intake.
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Originally Posted by MoWsE&Filly
I was afraid to ask the same question asked here, for fear of sounding like a really bad noob... Especially since I've worked on cars for a long time (older cars though, mostly restorals)... One question I do have though, would you recommend a CAI or a SRI? I know everyone has said CAI so far, but what's really the diff? But everyone gave me some good things to think about and definately good help... I didn't ask, but thanks!
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Well I am in Japan, but the car's in Hawaii with my wife... Yes I know the first thing you're going to think, "well then definately, you don't have to worry about rain"... But after that we're heading to Washington, so I'm pretty sure the SRI will be my better choice...


