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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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I would stick with the stock plugs. These things are a huge waste of money.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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hrm......sounds too good to be true.....

20,000 x more power? More HP, Torque AND fuel economy!!! O Rly?

IMO (without even having to buy and test them), don't waste your $$$.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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20,000 X power... wow!
who needs an RRM turbo when you could have these!!!??
hahah

I would play it safe too, this is just too much a risk...
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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there is scientific backing to the claims being made, it's the claim itself that needs to be examined. we all know a better spark will produce more power. we know that a more efficient burn creates less emissions and lowers fuel consumption. what's not proven, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that this technology will survive harsh driving conditions for anywhere near as long as a traditional plug.

what's also not covered is how deficient are normal spark plugs? if you are seeing such a dramatic increase over a normal spark plug why are they using the plug ignition as the comparison rather than entire ignition period itself They don't clearly explain if they expect the power gain to come from the near instantaneous ignition period or the extreme power produced in the spark compared to a normal plug. if the stock plug produces sufficient power to ignite the fuel properly, getting a stronger plug isn't going to change anything. to claim that all plugs are deficient in all engines is ludicrous; something would have been done about that long before alky injection for forced induction was developed

as far as I'm concerned near instantaneous ignition "could" have a positive effect, but you are talking about an advantage you couldn't take advantage of until a few other systems were improved upon such as your cam and crank position sensing equipment. it's impossible to take advantage of such an improvement without being able to measure it during normal operating conditions. since you couldn't possibly measure the difference between these two sparks in a real time daily driver you couldn't take advantage of the more accurate conditions it presents. even if you could measure it the cam and crank sensing equipment are nowhere near as accurate.

it's a good idea in science, and it may be beneficial on some cars. I doubt it would be worth the money over traditional plugs in ANY application, including racing. I would be easily convinced to hear that it would degrade your performance in strenuous conditions rather than improve it.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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I installed a set of these Pulsar plugs in my Evo IX last weekend. If you have a IX the cost for stock plugs vs the Pulsar's are comparable. I am running meth 50/50 and had them gapped at 0.22. I have had no issues and idle is much smoother since installing these plugs (would have idle'd better with stock plugs since the old one's needed changing). I have no idea if I am gaining any HP & TQ using these plugs. Recently Import tuner tested a set on a 4g63 and found like 6hp and torque. So I guess it really depends if you trust magazine reviews or not, right?

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
there is scientific backing to the claims being made, it's the claim itself that needs to be examined. we all know a better spark will produce more power. we know that a more efficient burn creates less emissions and lowers fuel consumption. what's not proven, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that this technology will survive harsh driving conditions for anywhere near as long as a traditional plug.

what's also not covered is how deficient are normal spark plugs? if you are seeing such a dramatic increase over a normal spark plug why are they using the plug ignition as the comparison rather than entire ignition period itself They don't clearly explain if they expect the power gain to come from the near instantaneous ignition period or the extreme power produced in the spark compared to a normal plug. if the stock plug produces sufficient power to ignite the fuel properly, getting a stronger plug isn't going to change anything. to claim that all plugs are deficient in all engines is ludicrous; something would have been done about that long before alky injection for forced induction was developed

as far as I'm concerned near instantaneous ignition "could" have a positive effect, but you are talking about an advantage you couldn't take advantage of until a few other systems were improved upon such as your cam and crank position sensing equipment. it's impossible to take advantage of such an improvement without being able to measure it during normal operating conditions. since you couldn't possibly measure the difference between these two sparks in a real time daily driver you couldn't take advantage of the more accurate conditions it presents. even if you could measure it the cam and crank sensing equipment are nowhere near as accurate.

it's a good idea in science, and it may be beneficial on some cars. I doubt it would be worth the money over traditional plugs in ANY application, including racing. I would be easily convinced to hear that it would degrade your performance in strenuous conditions rather than improve it.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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well ill see whats going on with funds this week and ill get a set but ill have to set up a dyno time on my buddys dyno.

hell i dont even know what its putting out now and my clutch is slipping a bit soo maby after a new clutch ill try them if not done yet
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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I was tempted to play with the idea earlier and give it a go but the price tag was a bit discouraging. more recently I have been pushed by some to test it during the local dyno day next month. If I recieve enough donated funds by April first, we will be able to solve the mystery one way or the other. Currently $35 / $112
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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I'll be sticking with what's worked so well for the last 94,000 miles. In about 1000 miles, next time I'm changing my oil, I'll be dropping in a set of fresh NGK LZFR6AIs I picked up last week.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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IMO, there's always some new gimmicky spark plug coming out, and it's a waste of money. The only things that matter are if it makes a spark like it's supposed to, and how durable the plug is. +1 to what Mysz, stick with the OEM plugs, they're great.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
there is scientific backing to the claims being made, it's the claim itself that needs to be examined. we all know a better spark will produce more power. we know that a more efficient burn creates less emissions and lowers fuel consumption. what's not proven, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that this technology will survive harsh driving conditions for anywhere near as long as a traditional plug.

what's also not covered is how deficient are normal spark plugs? if you are seeing such a dramatic increase over a normal spark plug why are they using the plug ignition as the comparison rather than entire ignition period itself They don't clearly explain if they expect the power gain to come from the near instantaneous ignition period or the extreme power produced in the spark compared to a normal plug. if the stock plug produces sufficient power to ignite the fuel properly, getting a stronger plug isn't going to change anything. to claim that all plugs are deficient in all engines is ludicrous; something would have been done about that long before alky injection for forced induction was developed

as far as I'm concerned near instantaneous ignition "could" have a positive effect, but you are talking about an advantage you couldn't take advantage of until a few other systems were improved upon such as your cam and crank position sensing equipment. it's impossible to take advantage of such an improvement without being able to measure it during normal operating conditions. since you couldn't possibly measure the difference between these two sparks in a real time daily driver you couldn't take advantage of the more accurate conditions it presents. even if you could measure it the cam and crank sensing equipment are nowhere near as accurate.

it's a good idea in science, and it may be beneficial on some cars. I doubt it would be worth the money over traditional plugs in ANY application, including racing. I would be easily convinced to hear that it would degrade your performance in strenuous conditions rather than improve it.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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ok ok ok im not trying to ster things up here but i am just the kinda person that likes technolgy, stuff soo maby its not for everyone but ill get some numbers yahl and we'll go from there. then we can figure reliability after all i do believe they have a lifetime warrenty
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RalliDew
ok ok ok im not trying to ster things up here but i am just the kinda person that likes technolgy, stuff soo maby its not for everyone but ill get some numbers yahl and we'll go from there. then we can figure reliability after all i do believe they have a lifetime warrenty
so what you're saying is that you didn't read anything on the website?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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these plugs do not work.......I already took the plunge for everyone and im due to get a new head!!!! bushur hear i come Pulstar big NO-NO.. and no the shorter plugs i got before in a thread i started awhile ago did not ruin my head its the right length i got FROM the company them selves for free and i payed the price...oh well but PULSTAR= stick to stock or colder plugs and ill leave it at that!!!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo9"Miss Rose"
these plugs do not work.......I already took the plunge for everyone and im due to get a new head!!!! bushur hear i come Pulstar big NO-NO.. and no the shorter plugs i got before in a thread i started awhile ago did not ruin my head its the right length i got FROM the company them selves for free and i payed the price...oh well but PULSTAR= stick to stock or colder plugs and ill leave it at that!!!
I can't figure out what you're trying to say.
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