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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Nitrous question

well seince taxes are right around the corner i was thinking of a Nitrous kit for my car i was thinking a 75-100 shot so i need help picking out the parts for better engine mods before i do it. i know forged pistons would be a good start and i want the rrm camshaft and bigger fuel injectors(dont know what size) but other than that im kind of lost so help me out guys thanks.

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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Its all in the tune, with N20 start LOW. id say 50-75. get a wet kit, and im prety sure you wouldnt have to worry about injectors as the wet kit mixes the fuel. depending on your mileage too will depend what you need.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Its all in the tune, with N20 start LOW. id say 50-75. get a wet kit, and im prety sure you wouldnt have to worry about injectors as the wet kit mixes the fuel. depending on your mileage too will depend what you need.
just hit 76k so 75 shot would be good with stock internals?
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Disclaimer: I don't know very much about nitrous setups.

Wouldn't it make more sense to run a wet shot than it would to start messing with injectors? Also, for the power level you're looking for, wouldn't be a bad idea to use ARP head and main studs to help hold everything together better.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Why go that route?
Why not just use the money towards a better mod for the car that wont put so much tear on to your engine?
I dont know what you have done to your car, but I am sure the money could be put into something better... and something that you wont have to refill whenever you want to have fun.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:00 AM
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Well I'm all for nitrous I've sprayed from 35-80 on the street up to 115 at the track, on stock internals without a problem for over 50,000 miles. I'd suggect filling your motor mounts, colder spark plugs, tapping/ evo fuel rail with adapter (don't cut the fuel line) some good tires, and some n/a practice on launching. Everything has it's ups and downs, there's alot of info on this subject from a few years back , search it up. Checkout club4g.org alot of eclipse owners have the bottle (same motor as us).
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kaoscage
Why go that route?
Why not just use the money towards a better mod for the car that wont put so much tear on to your engine?
I dont know what you have done to your car, but I am sure the money could be put into something better... and something that you wont have to refill whenever you want to have fun.
like what? that will add 50-75 hp (other than a turbo)
things i have done are in my sig
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lanzerralliart
Well I'm all for nitrous I've sprayed from 35-80 on the street up to 115 at the track, on stock internals without a problem for over 50,000 miles. I'd suggect filling your motor mounts, colder spark plugs, tapping/ evo fuel rail with adapter (don't cut the fuel line) some good tires, and some n/a practice on launching. Everything has it's ups and downs, there's alot of info on this subject from a few years back , search it up. Checkout club4g.org alot of eclipse owners have the bottle (same motor as us).
how would i fill my motor mounts i was planning on buying the motor mounts that rrm is selling would that be good?
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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I am assuming you live in Aurura, IL. Why not do the proper thing and contact a company such as AMS and get the real scoop on running this setup properly..

Rather than dealing with some people who have never installed nitrous or ran on a car themselves, talking to some professionals might be a bit better advice.

I am not knocking anyone here or questioning their abilities, I am simply saying that talking to a shop with this type of a thing might be better off. Especially sense, the OP doesn't seem to know a whole lot on the subject either....
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
I am assuming you live in Aurura, IL. Why not do the proper thing and contact a company such as AMS and get the real scoop on running this setup properly.
He doesn't live in IL. I've asked
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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If you are in Aurora Ontario then walk away from the nos subject unless your are turning the car into a track car only. It is ilegal and dangerous to run it on the street.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 02:54 AM
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Lol come on Brent , illegal and dangerous , when that turbo spools up (your 99% of the time speeding which is illegal) and I've seen more turbo wrecks/ popped motors than than nitrous ones 10 fold. It's talk like this that gives nitrous a bad name ,well this and the fast and the furious movies. Not trying to start a pissing contest but nitrous is very safe, reliable, and powerful.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lanzerralliart
Lol come on Brent , illegal and dangerous , when that turbo spools up (your 99% of the time speeding which is illegal) and I've seen more turbo wrecks/ popped motors than than nitrous ones 10 fold. It's talk like this that gives nitrous a bad name ,well this and the fast and the furious movies. Not trying to start a pissing contest but nitrous is very safe, reliable, and powerful.
I agree with 90% of what you say but here in Ontario it is Illegal get caught and pay the price same as speeding nos in an accident involving a fire makes that vehicle very dangerous, I know that is an extreme case but that case has been long upheld in court here. At the moment and I am watching this very closely there a 3 cases being argued before the Ontario Court of Appeals that attest to illegal modifications and street racing. One case is almost a done deal regarding street racing and with the new case law "racing" involves 2 or more participants, in other words hard to race if you are the only one in it.....lol, That other cased i agree with involve unsafe modifications. Some "cool" and obviously bored cop thought it would be a good idea to write a bunch of tickets concerning suspension and intakes and exhaust internal engine work and in this case aftermarket turbo. The Crown (DA) is arguing the mods are for racing purpose and are unsafe. Thus far the suspension upgrade argument and i like how the Lawyer turned this one around said, how is a suspension upgrade "unsafe" the new suspension is a direct replacement to the oem suspension there is no modifying of the chassis and not only meets oem specs but exceeds oem standard performance how can this "upgrade" be unsafe? The only uncertain argument is aftermarket turbo or forced induction. The Crown is saying the engine is not built to handle the extra power and therefore the motor is more likely to expire...blah blah blah...so far engine builders across this province have been testifying that if built properly there is no reason why it cant be made safe. I hope there is a law set that if you want to mod your car it is done in a professional and safe matter. What I am getting at and I know nothing man made can be made perfect but what i am saying is do not take a NA motor, lets say a 4g69 then add a turbo pumping out 18psi to compete with an EVO, that is not smart and not safe. Do the mods within reason and make them safe for the car....
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OttRalliart05
Some "cool" and obviously bored cop thought it would be a good idea to write a bunch of tickets concerning suspension and intakes and exhaust internal engine work and in this case aftermarket turbo. The Crown (DA) is arguing the mods are for racing purpose and are unsafe.
If they outlaw suspension modifications for cars, they should also make it illegal to lift a truck, changing leaf springs, spring hangers, shackles, and installing lift blocks. They could also argue that installing a larger than stock tire reduces the effectiveness of the brakes, and make that illegal, as well.

Hell, why not pass a law making it illegal to do anything other than put fuel in it and drive it? That's where we're headed anyway.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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I cant remember where I heard this but there is a Country I think its Italy that you can not modify any car without the govt approval. That goes for wheels as well, if you want custom wheels and any other mod for that reason it has to be approved and once it is done you get card saying it is ok to have such mods.....i
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