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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Starter gone bad

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So yesterday my starter went bad. I talked to my car guy and he said a trick is to hit the starter with a hammer or metal object to loosen it so i can get it started. Be said this won't fix the problem but it will get it started so I can drive it to get fixed. I went to do so and found that I have no idea where the starter is in our car. Can someone let me know and if anyone has a picture also to help me find it I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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It's underneath the exhaust manifold behind a heat shield. Look down and to the left of the clutch slave cylinder. Pretty easy to get to once the heat shield is removed.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
It's underneath the exhaust manifold behind a heat shield. Look down and to the left of the clutch slave cylinder. Pretty easy to get to once the heat shield is removed.
So once I remove the exhaust manifold heat shield, it will be easily visible from above the car?
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Easily visible.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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OP, did this work for you? Status?
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Old Jul 30, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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yes it worked. it was hard to find at first. I was unaware that there would be a heat shield over the headers and also another head shield in front of the starter. After this was figured out it was easy to take care of. Got me to the shop to get it fixed. Thanks for the help!
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Old Jul 30, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Thought I was clear but I guess not. By "It's underneath the exhaust manifold behind a heat shield" I meant that it was behind its own heat shield, not the exhaust heat shield
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Old Jul 30, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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20 minute, 4 wrench job. hope they didn't charge you too much.
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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So... The starter is easily visible from the top, once both heat shields are removed? Mine has started (heh) having problems.
Some jackass that doesn't know anything about my car tried to tell me the starter was between the engine and the firewall and I would have to fix it from the underside.

Does anyone have pictures/technical diagrams?
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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lol, it's behind the heat shield that is behind the exhaust manifold...you can see it without removing anything. It right behind the clutch slave (release) cylinder.

you can see it in this pic...i can't find a decent picture with the stock header.


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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
lol, it's behind the heat shield that is behind the exhaust manifold...you can see it without removing anything. It right behind the clutch slave (release) cylinder.

you can see it in this pic...i can't find a decent picture with the stock header.
Thanks man, I did eventually find it. I unbolted both heat shields, but I couldn't get the one in front of the starter to come out from behind the header; it is just kinda sitting there, resting on the header.

I decided to take it to a shop since my mechanic said he could test it for me and find out what's wrong with it. He also mentioned it would be like $100 labor max to replace it if need be.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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it took me a while to replace my starter because the heat shield in front of the starter woudln't come out without me taking out the header.... which woudln't come out w/o taking out the fans... i learned all this the hard way when trying not to take apart everything lol
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Raikiri
it took me a while to replace my starter because the heat shield in front of the starter woudln't come out without me taking out the header.... which woudln't come out w/o taking out the fans... i learned all this the hard way when trying not to take apart everything lol
Ugh. Maybe it is a good thing that I took it to the shop instead of being a DIY guy. But I had clinicals today, so no time for that stuffs.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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two things:

A starter is a high torque electric motor...the coils are either shorted or open, you can verify both with resistance checks on a DMM.

The stock headers come out very easily actually, there are 3 bolts holding the exhaust manifold heat shield. There are 3 nuts holding the downpipe to the header, take those off, as well as the one nut and bolt on the bracket that holds the downpipe to the block, pull down on the downpipe, it comes off and will just hang there, then take all your exhaust manifold nuts and washers off, and the manifold comes out quite easily. Then you have unobstructed access to the starter heat shield as well as the starter itself.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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^only true if you have OEM header/dp. RRM combo makes me have to move everything
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