Factory turbo kit for the RA?!?

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View Poll Results: Will a factory turbo kit be offered for the RA?
Not a chance in hell!
60.00%
I think they will offer sooner than later...
18.75%
I'm just not sure they could / should / will
21.25%
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Aug 3, 2004 | 01:15 PM
  #1  
As was discussed a bit in another thread, is this a possibility?


Here's a link posted previously:

http://www.mitsubishicars.com.sg/cars/main_RLT.asp


Could this kit be made to fit the north-american RA??? If not, would Mitsubishi (makers of turbo units) develop a kit only for the N-A market?
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Aug 3, 2004 | 01:17 PM
  #2  
4g93 GDI... isnt that a turbo diesel?
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Aug 3, 2004 | 01:18 PM
  #3  
Keep in mind that the turbo on that RA is on a tiny 1.8L engine, and puts out the same output as the US RAs.

Personally, I feel it's highly unlikely that they will come out with a turbo version of the RA (it would put the cost too close to the Evo RS), there's just no reason for it. Money-wise, I think it'd make more sense to slap a turbo onto the 2.0L engine (since they've already done this with the Evo, they have all the parts already), then they could put it in the 20k range. Maybe it'd actually give the OZ Rally some *****.
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Aug 3, 2004 | 01:20 PM
  #4  
It would make sense to make a more affordable version of a turbo lancer other than just the Evo....doubt it will happen though.
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Aug 3, 2004 | 01:25 PM
  #5  
The 1.8 GDI is not a deisel - but a direct injection gas model. I don't know the exact specifics, but the fuel is sprayed directly into the combustion chamber for better atomization for increased fuel economy and better power. The new Audi engines have this. I don't remember where, but this was discussed already.
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Aug 3, 2004 | 05:18 PM
  #6  
Quote: Keep in mind that the turbo on that RA is on a tiny 1.8L engine, and puts out the same output as the US RAs.

Personally, I feel it's highly unlikely that they will come out with a turbo version of the RA (it would put the cost too close to the Evo RS), there's just no reason for it. Money-wise, I think it'd make more sense to slap a turbo onto the 2.0L engine (since they've already done this with the Evo, they have all the parts already), then they could put it in the 20k range. Maybe it'd actually give the OZ Rally some *****.

First off, no Evo RS up here. And even then, there's the fact that a RA with a factory turbo kit would still cost about 20,000 CAN$ less than an Evo (wich would sell for about 50,000 CAN$). This is about a 13,000 US$ difference. I don't know what the price difference is between the Evo and RA in the US, but from our perspective, this factory option would be a slam dunk!!!

If Mitsubishi offered that at around 3K CAN$ installed (which is feasible only when factory installed), it would be a good seller up here. And I can't see why it wouldn't be one in the US too...

Then, they'd have no choice but to sell that kit to their existing customer base... ...which (as suggested previously) would be great for our warranties.


More power to the RA!!!

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Aug 3, 2004 | 05:46 PM
  #7  
Like the Reacro seats, 15" brakes!!! Those are huge! While the idea is nice I think it would add to much $$ to the price. 12-13" might be a better compromise.

That motor sounds pretty weak though. It doesn't even have the hp of a Matrix XRS. And whats with the automatic?

Good idea but not for the NA market. ALthough you can get it in blue! Damn you stupid marketing people at Mitsu! I would kill for a Blue ralliart!

I would rather see for the Ralliart:

6 speed
4 speed shiftronic
12" brakes
17" tires
LSD
and pump up that 2.4L! Maybe 180-185hp? up the redline a bit too 6700-7000.

Saying this I really don't want much of a price increase either. THe Ralliart is a great car for the money (bang for the buck)
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Aug 3, 2004 | 06:35 PM
  #8  
Won't happen at all.

GDI will fail US emission, because it can't handle the sulfur content in our gas. Next, its specialized cat-converter will get killed by our gas.

The 4g93 GDI is an old engine since the late 90's, and the Libero had the GDI TC (or is it the 4g94 GDI TC). GDI has its injectors at the side of the cyl wall, instead of overhead. Also, it has very high CR to burn fuel.

Also, Mitsu will not make another TC other than the Evo.
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Aug 3, 2004 | 10:33 PM
  #9  
Quote: First off, no Evo RS up here. And even then, there's the fact that a RA with a factory turbo kit would still cost about 20,000 CAN$ less than an Evo (wich would sell for about 50,000 CAN$). This is about a 13,000 US$ difference. I don't know what the price difference is between the Evo and RA in the US, but from our perspective, this factory option would be a slam dunk!!!

If Mitsubishi offered that at around 3K CAN$ installed (which is feasible only when factory installed), it would be a good seller up here. And I can't see why it wouldn't be one in the US too...

Then, they'd have no choice but to sell that kit to their existing customer base... ...which (as suggested previously) would be great for our warranties.


More power to the RA!!!

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The Ralliart with the S&S package is just under $20,000 US. If Mitsu did do a turbo kit they would probably charge about $5,000 installed. The EVO RS starts around $27,000. Mitsu won't sell 2 cars in the same class that will compete with each other.
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Aug 4, 2004 | 03:50 AM
  #10  
Irh35, technically its not the same class. Yes, they are compact sedans. Yes, their prices are somewhat similiar. But no, they are in different "class". One is a FF and one is AWD. Two different catagory of cars. If you have a high hp, high torque FF car, you will hear tires scream. But if u got it in an AWD, you wont hear it that much. Due to the fact that AWD shifts all power on the 4 wheels, where FF shifts it in the front.

In Canada, RA costs about $20000. IF Evo does come out in Canada, it would cost about $45000 - $50000 to compete with STi. The price difference would be like $25000. So I believe that Mitsubishi might throw in the GDI TC into the US Spec RA for $5000. And TC RA will give you approx. 230hp as to Evo 280hp (thats 50hp more!). People might want cheap but fast car, TC RA. Or people might want fast but not so expensive, EVO. It may not be as powerful as the Evo TC, but it is still a TC and it will definitely gives it more of a boost. Unfortunately, US Mitsubishi won't make this dream come true, for now...
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Aug 4, 2004 | 06:20 AM
  #11  
I wonder what it would cost to get the existing turbo kit delivered here though?
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Aug 4, 2004 | 07:42 AM
  #12  
I could see the likelyhood of them offering a supercharger as an option. This would take it out of the same market for the Evo but put it right into the same market as say...an SRT-4, RSX-S, Celica GT-S, as well as the GTi's....
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Aug 4, 2004 | 07:52 AM
  #13  
...which would be an additionnal market for them, since they don't have anything between the Evo and the stock RA right now (well, up here they don't have squat over the RA right now!).

Why wouldn't they go with a small turbo instead of a supercharger though? I know they produce turbos (their parent company I mean), so the cost of offering a supercharger would be much higher for them... and it would not help in the promotion (and sales) of their turbo compressors.


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Aug 4, 2004 | 08:39 AM
  #14  
Um...I could see them offering the SC maybe b/c its, like we said, a different market. As well as the fact that SC's are more efffective on larger engines (not saying that the RA has a huge engine) AND probably more important...easier to warranty. SC are a little more reliable in the long run....
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Aug 4, 2004 | 01:31 PM
  #15  
SC or TC, they both gives you good hp. But i love the TC sound, not sure about the SC (they sound a bit... weird). Oh well, wish mitsu guys are watching this thread. GIVE US OUR FORCED INJECTION STUFF!!!!!
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