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I wanted an Auto EVO9 and i want an XMR... The only thing i dont like about XMR is price! since i am not into racing... if i was then i would want more HP..Originally Posted by Thegame
Dude, I don't know why you even post on this board. You trashed the X, you trashed the Ralliart, and I highly doubt you like any evo's. Get a damn Slowbaru then if it's a great deal.
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Beyond that, it implies horsepower at the WHEELS. No sport compact in the Ralliart's price bracket puts down 255 wheel horsepower in stock form.Originally Posted by ExcessLancer
Oh , i see your little loop hole...LOL I didnt know that "AWHP" meant "AWD HP" since there was no "D" in there... I just thought we were comparing HP of the cars... YEs MS3 does not have AWD it is only FWD.
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Why would you want that? It would be so boring to drive..Originally Posted by ExcessLancer
I wanted an Auto EVO9 and i want an XMR..
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Like an X-MR is boring to drive? (And yes, I realize that the TC-SST is far more advanced and capable than the INVECS system.)Originally Posted by Rnm
Why would you want that? It would be so boring to drive..
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Well i dont like shifting gears when driving cause 90% of my driving is in city traffic, i like to relax when i drive... but i love look of the 9....!Originally Posted by Rnm
Why would you want that? It would be so boring to drive..
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boring? only thing can be boring in the evo is a boring driver. Originally Posted by Rnm
Why would you want that? It would be so boring to drive..

in full automatic mode no flappies used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1_b6AKAMpA
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Arguing the price is fine, but people are really exaggerating the performance difference around here.
faster due to power breaking. Which is a standard technique on torque-converter equipped vehicles but your street 0-60 will not be that quick. I'd still like to test drive one for kicks when it comes out. The tranny is appealing and the main factor for the 27K price tag.Originally Posted by Mors
"Eat them alive". You do realize the Ralliart was faster than the MS3 0-60, and posted an identical 1/4 time? 0-100 yes, the Ralliart was the slowest.Arguing the price is fine, but people are really exaggerating the performance difference around here.
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This isn't a torque converter equipped vehicle, and they admittedly were dropping the clutch at redline to launch the WRX, and probably the others as well.Originally Posted by eg6motion
faster due to power breaking. Which is a standard technique on torque-converter equipped vehicles but your street 0-60 will not be that quick. I'd still like to test drive one for kicks when it comes out. The tranny is appealing and the main factor for the 27K price tag.
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C&D got a 5.5 0-60 for a Ralliart, with a 6.2 5-60 street start.
Just did a search on C&D's site, MS3 - 5.8 0-60, 6.7 5-60 street start. Although these numbers are from different tests. I hope they do a comparo soon with the RA, MS3, and updated WRX, tested at the same time (like R&T).
Just did a search on C&D's site, MS3 - 5.8 0-60, 6.7 5-60 street start. Although these numbers are from different tests. I hope they do a comparo soon with the RA, MS3, and updated WRX, tested at the same time (like R&T).
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Yeah, that curve is as smooth as a baby's butt!Originally Posted by TruboPower
Thats a bootleg *** dyno graph anyways.
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Originally Posted by ExcessLancer
Well i dont like shifting gears when driving cause 90% of my driving is in city traffic, i like to relax when i drive... but i love look of the 9....!
OMG! I go from one thread to a next and all i see u do is complain. U want advice? Sell ur 325 go to south coast mitsubishi and buy an X MR. If thats too much for u buy a 9 sell ur 325 and get the damn JDM auto tranny. And if thats not good for u then delete ur account here and sign up at www.bimmerforums.com and discuss how great ur automatic BMW is in traffic because no matter how much u look at the 9, its NOT gonna magically turn into an automatic. If u have nothin good to say about the new Lancers/Evos then u need not be on this site. Deuces.

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EVO 8/9 RS... IX probably did close to 270awhp str8 off the lot.Originally Posted by hibby
Show me a car that does 255 AWHP for $27,000 straight off the lot.
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??Originally Posted by TruboPower
Too bad its... XS engineering
What is wrong with XS?
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