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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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Interesting debate. I didn't buy the Ralliart with any intention of taking it to a track. Ever. If I wanted a track car, I would have saved up longer and picked up the Evo X. I bought the Ralliart because I wanted a car that was fun to drive day-to-day.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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It's funny because i find my SST more enjoyable to drive then all the manuals i've owned. I feel more connected to the car to be honest with you. The gears are essentially at my fingertips.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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It's been argued that, that won't last for you ... let us know in 5 months if you still use the paddles like you do today.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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However, I don't necessarily agree with that. It's a much more closed system with many more components that can fail. It will take a few YEARS of practice before I believe this transmission will be as reliable as a manual transmission. I think a side to side performance between a manual and a SST would be awesome... see which one lasts longer. Measure heat, whp, shifting speeds after a few hours of HEAVY driving. I'm willing to bet the manual wins and the car with the SST will have to come up with $5k to replace the SST ;p.
There's a Youtube video interview of a Mitsu exec driving a Ralliart. He explicitly states that the TC-SST has fewer parts than a manual trans and is more reliable.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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I don't even like the paddle shifters....i just shift with the stick auto-manually haha...
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Noble713
There's a Youtube video interview of a Mitsu exec driving a Ralliart. He explicitly states that the TC-SST has fewer parts than a manual trans and is more reliable.
That's a Mitsubishi exec, he's not going to say "oh and by the way, please don't bag on the car since the transmission has a tendency to overheat".
Somebody hit the nail on the head, the Ralliart was designed to be a street car, and that's it. For that job, it's pretty ****ing sweet. As a track car though the weight, the restricted performance and the lack of a true manual hinders it substantially.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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No car exists in a complete vacuum. I see what you're trying to say, but realistically, consumers CAN and WILL cross-shop the Ralliart with the MS3, GTI, CSS and WRX.
oh yes, I agree.
I cross-shopped it with a Lexus IS250 AWD, R32, EvoXGSR and the Nissan Nismo.
Price became the issue naturally.
So...i stayed modest and copped the R/A.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Why isn't the Ralliart on mitsubishicars.com yet???
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by migs647
It's been argued that, that won't last for you ... let us know in 5 months if you still use the paddles like you do today.
Is there a point to saying something like this?

...Well that does it for me. I might as well sell the car now, because migs said it would get old.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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You've owned the car for what, a week? Wait till you've owned it a few months before you go declaring it the best thing since sliced bread. I'm seen at least one review that commented that the paddles got boring after a while and they just drove the thing like a normal automatic. This was an MR to boot.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That's a Mitsubishi exec, he's not going to say "oh and by the way, please don't bag on the car since the transmission has a tendency to overheat".
Somebody hit the nail on the head, the Ralliart was designed to be a street car, and that's it. For that job, it's pretty ****ing sweet. As a track car though the weight, the restricted performance and the lack of a true manual hinders it substantially.
Yeah you're right. He should have said, "I know I'm a mitsubishi exec and all, but i dont really know anything about this car. Instead I want you to listen to ambystom01 over at evom.net. Oh and because a handful of people have gotten overheating issues, that means EVERY tranny will overheat."
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
You've owned the car for what, a week? Wait till you've owned it a few months before you go declaring it the best thing since sliced bread. I'm seen at least one review that commented that the paddles got boring after a while and they just drove the thing like a normal automatic. This was an MR to boot.
I've owned the car for almost a month now. And because ONE person got tired of the paddle shifters then the rest of us will?
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EsRt2evo
I've owned the car for almost a month now. And because ONE person got tired of the paddle shifters then the rest of us will?
agreed
The very same thing can be said about the manual.
And it has been said.
And that came from a MR owner, too.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EsRt2evo
Yeah you're right. He should have said, "I know I'm a mitsubishi exec and all, but i dont really know anything about this car. Instead I want you to listen to ambystom01 over at evom.net. Oh and because a handful of people have gotten overheating issues, that means EVERY tranny will overheat."
He's a Mitsubishi exec, are you really so naive as to think that he knows the car inside and out or that he has any mechanical experience? Hell the guy probably drives a BMW or Mercedes to work. A few reviewers have also complained that the tranny shifts rough and a few members have made that observation as well, I'm guessing that wasn't mentioned by the exec now was it? It's funny when sarcasm backfires.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EsRt2evo
I've owned the car for almost a month now. And because ONE person got tired of the paddle shifters then the rest of us will?
Nobody is saying you will, people are simply saying that it's best to wait longer than a week before you come to some massive conclusion that a brand new technology is going to revolutionize the entire industry. I loved my sunroof when I first got my car but now I don't even use it.
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