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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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TTP + new tune = ??? :)

ok guys you know what was my old story. Car was reving around 2k when not moving, the CELS, Limp mode, hard down shifting, all things that were not so good. Well now all that was the problems of the past. Ive been driving now around 600 miles and not ONE problem has occured! i have than the car fast, accelerated hard, used manual and sport mode flawlessly and the shifting..like stock! the car cruising is a total sleeper, but when i punch it, in any gear, it PULLS. i can try to describe it but you wont understand fully. I am extremely satisfied with the tune now. The power is consistent and the car is realiable. i didnt notice much mpg drop when cruising, if any at all. Scott did 2 tunes to see what would be the best tune. One with 330 tq and 274 hp! (yep thats crazy torque!)
and the second, which is the one i stayed with...........292 hp and 315 tq!!!!! ok guys i know it aint like AMS numbers with the EVO X TURBO but its PRETTY darn close! plus it'll be cheaper then getting all the pieces needed for the conversion!
So am I happy?.. OH YA! would i do it again? IS the pope catholic?! Remember guys our car is still kinda new and performance parts and tunes can be in a "prototype" stage. I went through some difficulties so you guys wouldnt. how nice huh? so check the dyno sheet and enjoy. Thanks scott for the tune, very nice work.

P.s. i know dyno numbers are just that..so when im not physically and mentally exhausted i will take it to the track and get the times.

ALRIGHT IM HAVING TROUBLE POSTING UP THE DYNO SHEET! i will try again tomorrow.. sorry guys! when i try upload the sheet it says its missing a security token..?

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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JONralli09
ok guys you know what was my old story. Car was reving around 2k when not moving, the CELS, Limp mode, hard down shifting, all things that were not so good. Well now all that was the problems of the past. Ive been driving now around 600 miles and not ONE problem has occured! i have than the car fast, accelerated hard, used manual and sport mode flawlessly and the shifting..like stock! the car cruising is a total sleeper, but when i punch it, in any gear, it PULLS. i can try to describe it but you wont understand fully. I am extremely satisfied with the tune now. The power is consistent and the car is realiable. i didnt notice much mpg drop when cruising, if any at all. Scott did 2 tunes to see what would be the best tune. One with 330 tq and 274 hp! (yep thats crazy torque!)
and the second, which is the one i stayed with...........292 hp and 315 tq!!!!! ok guys i know it aint like AMS numbers with the EVO X TURBO but its PRETTY darn close! plus it'll be cheaper then getting all the pieces needed for the conversion!
So am I happy?.. OH YA! would i do it again? IS the pope catholic?! Remember guys our car is still kinda new and performance parts and tunes can be in a "prototype" stage. I went through some difficulties so you guys wouldnt. how nice huh? so check the dyno sheet and enjoy. Thanks scott for the tune, very nice work.

P.s. i know dyno numbers are just that..so when im not physically and mentally exhausted i will take it to the track and get the times.

ALRIGHT IM HAVING TROUBLE POSTING UP THE DYNO SHEET! i will try again tomorrow.. sorry guys!

Damn!! Nice job!! That's some good numbers. It is good to know that there are other vendors doing the job and being able to have more options out there. The more, the merrier.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Nice bro...its always nice to have your stuff running good.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Old May 3, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Thanks for an opportunity to work on your beast Jon.

We reached the torque limitations of the SST transmission at 330tq so we had to reduce boost on that area to make the car happy.

We will post up datalogs soon to show the results of the SST torque protection.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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JONralli09;Scott did 2 tunes to see what would be the best tune. One with 330 tq and 274 hp! (yep thats crazy torque[/b]
[b]and the second, which is the one i stayed with...........292 hp and 315 tq!!!!!
Now a quick question, is this in WHP or engine HP crank? Agian, awesome numbers!!
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Old May 3, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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lets see those 1/4 mile times.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Now a quick question, is this in WHP or engine HP crank? Agian, awesome numbers!!
Horsepower to the wheels.

We were able to bring performance to a record 330wtq, however the SST transmission decided it wasn't going to allow that level of performance at all times. We decided in order to keep the torque limiters happy that we would have to reduce torque in the areas where the protection would initiate.

Below are some datalogs from 330wtq and our work to bring it down until the point where the SST transmission would not let the clutches slip any longer.



The final result of reduced torque only in the rpm ranges where the clutch would slip.

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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Interesting to see the effects of the torque limiter. I have seen similar shaped rpm graphs when logging my own car. I wonder if this is the result of high boost or if it can be corrected with other map tweaks.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:22 AM
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hey i put some vids of my car on dyno on youtube. look under 09 ralliart and by Jonlightning911. there are 3 vids so far.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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oh lord.... torque limit debate is a brewing. AMS says it doesnt exist and TTP shows graphs its happening. What now? Who to believe? More data is needed.

TTP, how did you determine that the clutch was actually slipping?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9DNlW71-mU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpz5xKJJ064

http://www.youtube.com/user/jonlightning911
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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^ thanks
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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just added another vid of a drag run on the dyno. it might take a bit til everyone can see it
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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how bout the base dyno and the tuned gain?
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