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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Wingless and handling

Just curious for those of you who have removed the rear wing, have you noticed any changes in handling specially on the freeway, or even slight increased in mileage due to less drag. I was wondering if having a wing does improve handling.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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For most street situations, especially if you're going under... say 70 mph (just my guess here, from experience) it isn't going to make much of a difference either way. Especially the smaller spoiler.

In high speed situations, it definitely makes a difference, but you already knew that. If you want to take it off, just take it off.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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spoilers are mostly for looks... you don't go fast enough for it to provide any handling benefits
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Not sure how much benefit the RA spoiler really as, since it is almost below the airflow. The taller Evo spoiler is designed to be in clean air, so I would imagine a noticeable difference there.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by krnkimchi702
spoilers are mostly for looks... you don't go fast enough for it to provide any handling benefits
unless you plan on driving an sti going 140 into s-curves at VIR, then spoilers can save your life and your car. plus, sometimes higher isnt always better...

was that too soon? bad taste maybe? sorry i couldnt resist.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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i highly doubt he will be doing that anytime soon lol can the ralliart even reach 140?
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 03chi-town0Z
unless you plan on driving an sti going 140 into s-curves at VIR, then spoilers can save your life and your car. plus, sometimes higher isnt always better...

was that too soon? bad taste maybe? sorry i couldnt resist.

Lolz, nah not too soon cause he lived so no worries. Couple people from my car club here at JMU knew that guy lol.

A spoiler, as stated, makes a difference at higher speeds you'll probably never notice the difference.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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i highly doubt he will be doing that anytime soon lol can the ralliart even reach 140?
Yeah, Ralliarts are teh slow. They don't even need good tires or brakes.

If a Mini-S can reach 140+, I'm sure an RA could. How often a Ralliart will actually use a spoiler is probably minuscule at best. If the OP's question is whether removing it is a good idea or bad idea. I'd say it's all personal pref. If you are tracking the car, I'd put on the X SSS spoiler.

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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Ok I've been wanting a wing delete just waiting on lowering springs otherwise it looks funny, yes ralliarts can go 140+ I've been at 140 and I felt like I had a bit more, of coarse only at the track, car is pretty stable at that speed the only problem I had was slowing down, that's when I felt the brakes do need upgrading.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by krnkimchi702
i highly doubt he will be doing that anytime soon lol can the ralliart even reach 140?
It just takes time, but it will. With a boost pill you get another 15mph.....

...or so I've heard.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by krnkimchi702
i highly doubt he will be doing that anytime soon lol can the ralliart even reach 140?

yup, 146mph , ask me how i know ; )
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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yup, 146mph , ask me how i know ; )
please.. tell me.. and then we will see what happens next.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Menendez
yup, 146mph , ask me how i know ; )
Originally Posted by krnkimchi702
please.. tell me.. and then we will see what happens next.
"Oh I was on the freewa..."

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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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I wouldn't doubt the 140. The motor does ~3000 rpm at 80 mph. 140+ would be ~5500.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by krnkimchi702
please.. tell me.. and then we will see what happens next.
what's that supposed to mean? ever heard of a road course? i've done 155 in my EVO IX more than once on a road course, and at the airstrip we do our autocrosses at sometimes when they let us use the entire length.

as for the wing debate, I don't know if the small wing on these cars does much, but i know the big one does. the EVO IX's wing starts making noticeable handling changes at speeds as low as 60mph. around a high speed corner without the wing, it definitely makes a noticeable difference in how loose the car is. even at street legal speeds on higher speed roads with curves the difference can be felt. If you're going to track the car, the wing is definitely needed. I'm sure the small wing doesn't provide as much downforce as the larger one does, but every little bit helps when you need it. airflow is a very important part of handling, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about.

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