he said the coils we a test for a big company. KW or something like that

 

You are partially correct about Robi's offerings.

To my knowledge, the Ralliart I am taking delivery of this month will be the first in the country other than Robi's personal prototype car with the brake kit he developed in cooperation with TheBrakeMan.com. Yes, it is a 4-wheel kit. The brakes are by far the weakest performance link on the Ralliart imo, even more than the steel suspension and narrow track, thus they are the first thing I'm upgrading.



KW Coilovers are not "or something," as they are among the highest-rated race suspension providers in the business. Robi's specially tuned and modified KW Coilovers are changed in Robi's setups, they design custom coilovers based on his specs. It takes time to bring a new, thoroughly researched and tested application to market because he is literally giving design changes to the factory in Germany, who has him on speed dial.

I am not sure what suspension modifications I will undertake on this car as it will be my wife's daily driver, but e*cellent brakes are good on any car, and this kit is a no-brainer for us right now.

I'll keep people posted.

Cheers,
Adam

 

Thank you for the info and thank you for the correction i didn't write down every thing we talked about so i was just trying to bring information to the public which seems like highly criticized thing on this forum. lol

but when i said KW becouse i was not 100% sure of the brand. and way to go on the brakes wish i could afford them they sure look pretty.

 

ad-rok. thanks for that info on the brakes.

i hope that system is available for sale soon..i want it.

..you mentioned the RA as having a "narrow track".

i am pretty sure the track width is only about 1/2" narrower than evo x.

do you consider the evo x as having a narrow track ?

 

The Evo X fits 18x10" wheels stock with very wide tires. You have to roll fenders and yank metal to fit 18x18.5" wheels under the Ralliart, from what I understand. It is a significant difference not just in track width but in fender design and suspension geometry. But oh well.

Alas, they sacrificed too much trunk on an X and it is just too small for the car to pass the "also for wife" test. Otherwise, I'd probably have an X MR.

-Adam

 

A lot of you need to get educated on Robispec. Search around the forums or read through his website, his work is top notch. Robert Fuller is arguably the best at what he does.

 

Its unfortunate to say, but most of the Ralliart owners are like the base Lancer owners. They just want to buy the cheapest flashiest parts sold on EvoM. Then they can have their signatures be that large list of parts that they have added to their DD. Its all about the attention

 

+1 there. just from the little i talked to him you could tell he really knows what he is talking about. and is devoted to finding / developing good quality stuff for the RA

its nice to know there is an expert just down the street (world wide known expert)
this place is pretty small too it used to be just a pit-stop between LA and Vegas

 

..the evo x has 18 x 8.5 wheels with 245/40 tires "stock".

these can be put on the RA with no problems ( as long as you keep stock ride height )

so our RAs' are not too bad in the "track width" area.

i just want stiiffer suspension and better brakes...

looks like the new robi stuff will meet my needs.

 

I am not convinced this is true, and in fact I think Robi mentioned you have to roll / bang / bend fenders to fit 18x8.5's even with stock mushy suspension, let alone a decent coilover setup. The Evo X has a wider track *and* flared / wider fenders *and* suspension geometry that was designed directly to support larger wheel / tire combinations than Evo X rolling stock.

Also, definitions time: track width is not solely the width of tires. Track width is the dimension from the centerline of the tire tread on one tire to the centerline of the tire tread on the opposite tire on the same end of the vehicle, front track or rear track. [Wheelbase is the dimension from the centerline of the front tire to the centerline of the rear tire].

When compromises had to be made, I decided on the Ralliart (again, trunk space was a deal-breaker for me), but it's important to realize the framework we have to work with is totally different than the Evo X.

-Adam

 

i'm liking the brakes, but if you wanna build w/ the full coilovers & all that on this "street car" for a track, yer going to be sadly dissapointed. I'm able to still compete in autocross against stock & mild evos on only lowered springs & VIII Enkei 17x8's w/245/40zr17 Hoosiers. On a high speed course w/ quicker cars, forget it, no way will it keep up, & if you overrev it all day out there, you begin to cook the sensitive tranny.

 

..........don't need "definitions".

evo x stock track width dimension = 60.8 inches

'09 RA stock track width dimension = 60.2 inches

 

pretty sure when robi mentioned the car needed to roll/bang/bend fenders the car was lowered to the max and also running 245's... this is the orange ra we are talking about which robi posted on the forum a while ago, cant seem to find the thread tho..

 

I have heard the EVO is 2" wider and 8.5 rims are suspect and have a good chance of rubbing.

The RA and EVO brochers I have confirm that the track difference is only 1/2"

It probably has to do with the fenders and quater panel flaring that the EVO has that makes them 2" wider and can accomodate 9.5-10" rims.

 

Sadly, this is the truth. I don't think there is going to be a huge market for high-end ralliart parts, because if someone was going to spend several thousand on upgrading brake/suspension on a RA, they would have just bought an Evo in the first place.