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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Will these fit

I've got a set of 18" gold Volk Rims that I would like to put on my 09 black ralliart.
the font size is 225/40/zr18
the rear size is 235/40/zr18
Will these fit?
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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What size rims and offset are they? They should fit fine, u'll have no problems with the 225s but u might get a little bit of rubbing in the rear with the 235s depending on offset when u hit a big bump or bottom out. I thought staggered tires on an AWD wasn't good.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Im not sure about the offset but I just check the size and the fronts are 18x8 and the rears are 18x9
they were on my 99 eclipse gst spyder when I bought it.

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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I'm not sure about Volks, but some rims have the size and offset stamped on somewhere on the inside of the rim. The tires will fit, (but I wouldn't run staggered tire widths on an AWD) but I couldn't say if the rims fit without knowing the width and offset. Jack up the car and slap em on and see how they fit.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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I think maybe the offset is +37
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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running staggered rims (width) is a nono on AWD cars..
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Alright I guess they will be staying on my 99 gst spyder then.
all good either way
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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If evo X stock wheels won't fit on a ralliart then those won't. They're about the same size. 18x8.5 38offset on evoX.

+1 there's a few stickies around in different sections of the forum. AWD's always use 4 matching tire or you'll destroy your tcase.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bye2u
running staggered rims (width) is a nono on AWD cars..
Really? I thought it was the overall diameter (including tire profile) that really mattered, because you don't want two of your tires trying to rotate at a faster/slower rpm than the other two.

Running, say, 215/40/r18 on the front and 215/45/r18 on the rear would probably destroy your drivetrain. The rears diameter would be about 22mm more than in the front. Same reason you want to make sure your tires wear evenly, so they rotate at the same speed.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Really? I thought it was the overall diameter (including tire profile) that really mattered, because you don't want two of your tires trying to rotate at a faster/slower rpm than the other two.

Running, say, 215/40/r18 on the front and 215/45/r18 on the rear would probably destroy your drivetrain. The rears diameter would be about 22mm more than in the front. Same reason you want to make sure your tires wear evenly, so they rotate at the same speed.
If you have two different wheel widths front and back that will necessitate running two different size tires just to get similar sidewall fitment front to back. Since the sidewall height is a percentage of width you'd never get the exact same size tires front to back. You would always have some degree of difference in size. No matter the combo of size choices. Even if you picked the same size front and back the difference in sidewall stretch will make them different circumferences.

A 225/40/18 has a 90 sidewall. A 235/40/18 has a 94. It really doesn't take much difference in size to cause the center diff spin abnormally rapidly and wear out from nothing but regular driving.

Here's a good article from tirerack sticky'd in the 1-9 evo forums tire section.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=18
As an example of different tire diameters resulting from tires worn to different tread depths, we'll compare two 225/45R17-sized tires, a new tire with its original tread depth of 10/32-inch and a second tire worn to 8/32-inch of remaining tread depth. The new 225/45R17-sized tire has a calculated diameter of 24.97", a circumference of 78.44" and will roll 835 times each mile. The same tire worn to 8/32-inch of remaining tread depth is calculated to be 1/8" shorter with a diameter of 24.84", have a circumference of 78.04" and will roll 839 times per mile. While the difference of 1/8" in overall diameter doesn't seem excessive, the resulting 4 revolutions per mile difference can place a continuous strain on the tires and vehicle's driveline. Obviously, the greater the difference in the tires' circumferences, the greater the resulting strain.
This makes maintaining the vehicle manufacturer's recommended tire inflation pressures and using "matched" tires on all wheel positions necessary procedures to reduce strain on the vehicle's driveline. Using "matched" tires means all four tires are the same brand, design and tread depth. Mixing tire brands, tread designs and tread depths may cause components in the vehicle's driveline to fail.
Mismatched tires or using improper inflation pressures for all-wheel drive and four-wheel drive vehicles can also result in immediate drivability problems. Some Control Trac equipped vehicles in 4Auto mode may exhibit a shutter on acceleration and/or a noise from the front driveline and transfer case while driving. Some all-wheel drive and four-wheel drive vehicles may exhibit axle windup or binding while driving. Some four-wheel drive vehicles (manual or electronic shift) with a two-wheel drive mode may refuse to shift "on the fly" into 4x4 Auto or 4x4 High at highway speeds.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Ahh yeah, that makes sense.

I was assuming that you could run a different tire size on the wider rim that would match the diameter of the front wheels, but the math just doesn't work out.

Too bad the profile is a percentage of the width instead of a set height, like 215/40mm/18

So yeah...run the same size front and back
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