AMS Lancer Ralliart with and FP Red installed... SST loves it!
Jul 16, 2009, 02:02 PM
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What the hell?! This is the second time one of my posts has disappeared! I don't think there was any reason for a mod to delete it.
EDIT: Oops, nevermind.. apparently there is a similar thread in the engine/powertrain R/A forums.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Jul 16, 2009, 02:21 PM
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I wouldn't consider the torque to be low actually. Even the 5 speed cars make about the same torque on an fp red and comparable boost levels.
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Jul 16, 2009, 03:08 PM
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I'm curious about the torque discrepancy between the EVO X and FP Red. Were sacrifices made with the FP Red tune in order to make maximum HP? Could the FP Red be tuned to be a little more torque rich?
Jul 16, 2009, 03:57 PM
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The EVO X turbo makes more power at lower rpms than an FP Red does. Torque is a mathematical equation of horsepower. Therefore, less hp at lower rpms = less peak torque number.
As you can clearly see in the graphs above, once both turbos are in there efficiency range layed over top of each other, the torque number is almost exactly the same. Not only is the torque what I would expect for an FP Red, it is also pretty much identical to the other fp reds that I have dyno'd.
Although Dynojets have a bad rap for reading rediculously high... Don't believe the hype, ours has always read consistently lower than all of the other dyno's you see pumping out 500+ whp on the FP Red. On our dyno a fp red car which meets proper octane requirements, running all of the boost that it can, makes about 450-470 whp.
As you can clearly see in the graphs above, once both turbos are in there efficiency range layed over top of each other, the torque number is almost exactly the same. Not only is the torque what I would expect for an FP Red, it is also pretty much identical to the other fp reds that I have dyno'd.
Although Dynojets have a bad rap for reading rediculously high... Don't believe the hype, ours has always read consistently lower than all of the other dyno's you see pumping out 500+ whp on the FP Red. On our dyno a fp red car which meets proper octane requirements, running all of the boost that it can, makes about 450-470 whp.
Jul 16, 2009, 05:07 PM
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The EVO X turbo makes more power at lower rpms than an FP Red does. Torque is a mathematical equation of horsepower. Therefore, less hp at lower rpms = less peak torque number.
As you can clearly see in the graphs above, once both turbos are in there efficiency range layed over top of each other, the torque number is almost exactly the same. Not only is the torque what I would expect for an FP Red, it is also pretty much identical to the other fp reds that I have dyno'd.
Although Dynojets have a bad rap for reading rediculously high... Don't believe the hype, ours has always read consistently lower than all of the other dyno's you see pumping out 500+ whp on the FP Red. On our dyno a fp red car which meets proper octane requirements, running all of the boost that it can, makes about 450-470 whp.
As you can clearly see in the graphs above, once both turbos are in there efficiency range layed over top of each other, the torque number is almost exactly the same. Not only is the torque what I would expect for an FP Red, it is also pretty much identical to the other fp reds that I have dyno'd.
Although Dynojets have a bad rap for reading rediculously high... Don't believe the hype, ours has always read consistently lower than all of the other dyno's you see pumping out 500+ whp on the FP Red. On our dyno a fp red car which meets proper octane requirements, running all of the boost that it can, makes about 450-470 whp.
Jul 16, 2009, 06:20 PM
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The car has a stock Evo X LICP on it. We kept the mods the same because we wanted a direct comparison between the turbos. It will be getting an AMS widemouth downpipe very shortly.
I am worried about the 60' time now that the car is considerably laggier. I am going to take it to a drag strip on a cool day and see if it will still leave almost as hard as it did before. If not, it may not E.T. any better than it did before, but at least we can find out what kind of trap speed it will run.
I am worried about the 60' time now that the car is considerably laggier. I am going to take it to a drag strip on a cool day and see if it will still leave almost as hard as it did before. If not, it may not E.T. any better than it did before, but at least we can find out what kind of trap speed it will run.
Jul 17, 2009, 07:01 AM
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The car has a stock Evo X LICP on it. We kept the mods the same because we wanted a direct comparison between the turbos. It will be getting an AMS widemouth downpipe very shortly.
I am worried about the 60' time now that the car is considerably laggier. I am going to take it to a drag strip on a cool day and see if it will still leave almost as hard as it did before. If not, it may not E.T. any better than it did before, but at least we can find out what kind of trap speed it will run.
I am worried about the 60' time now that the car is considerably laggier. I am going to take it to a drag strip on a cool day and see if it will still leave almost as hard as it did before. If not, it may not E.T. any better than it did before, but at least we can find out what kind of trap speed it will run.