Nicely said. And great tune Cam.

 

What were your stock numbers? If you are indeed putting down that kind of TQ you had better start saving up for the SSP clutch packs. It will only be a matter of time unfortunetly

 

I didn't get stock numbers bc i already had the boost pill and GST basemap on the car...should've asked for em though. Do you know what the sst can handle stock for torque?

 

Ralliarts dyno around 186 whp on cams dyno.

It still makes zero sense to me. The only difference really between Chops tune any any of ours is the boost pill. He runs one, while cam removes our stock one and runs it without.

Im truly speechless. Im happy for chops, but the drastic change in power doesnt add up. AMS themselves cant tune 100 whp and 120 wtrq more on the stock turbo using there parts, infact no one ever has. Its like you have an evo turbo. I know Cam knows his stuff, thats why i've spent $1800 in the last year with him, but as stated before something has changed.

For a ralliart with AMS bolt ons to make more power then an Ultimate Racing Bolted RA is one thing, but 40WHP and 70 Torque more is outlandish. And i say that with confidence having had 8-10 ralliarts from this region with similar parts go through there, with the same numbers time after time.

the other thing that gets me is the 27.5 peak power. Has anyone even made that on a RA turbo before? even peak? And chops what are you holding for boost at redline?

At any rate, you and i need to do some pull chops, to see how much difference there is and how the variation in the power curve will effect you. You make peak at 5200, while i am still making whp at cut off, so that should show a difference.

Oh, and if people are wondering about my facts, kieffer only made 315 whp with ams stuff and an evo x turbo, tuned by ams. thats only 34 whp more?

 

The car is holding 24 PSI at 5000 RPM still. You guys can analyze this till the cows come home.The dyno is the same today as it was yesterday. Remember boost is only a measure of restriction not an actual flow number. His car peaks at 27.5 PSI . Now I went and looked up my records and logged data most Ralliarts peak at no more than 24PSI the usual is 22 PSI to 23.5 PSI. This is probably most of the differance. I intend to do some more restriction tests on intercoolers but I am sure this is where the differance in flow is happenning. I will be happy for any of you guys to come down here and we will go over numbers etc and look at things. I took an hour out already today looking at things. The car is moving more air end of story. Air flow combined with propper timing and fuel = whp. Let me know when you want to come down and I will try and make some time.

Cheers Cam

 

Ill grab that AMS intercooler at Platinum next week and come down. If possible id love to get a few pulls and see what type of numbers im pushing.

Im not knocking you in anyway cam, youve done great things with my x swapped ralliart, were all just trying to understand the variables.

 

Is it safe for him to be pushing 24 psi on the stock turbo? That has to be pushing the limits of that turbo? I know with the X turbo I am holding 23.5 (or 24.5) can't remember but peaking at around 26-27psi.

Those are awesome numbers regardless on the stock turbo, I'd just be curious how long it will hold up.

 

yeah i agree the turbo is while past its reliable stage. Pre turbo meth injection would be a great purchase for its cooling effect to help the longevity of this turbo.

Its hitting 27.5 he said keiffer, and holding in the 20's. Im still speechless to be honest.

 

No way a stock RA turbo is holding 20 psi. The stock evo 10 turbo can barely do that.

I would imagine it's dropping to the mid teens.

On my personal RA, it drops to around 14.5 psi at 7,000 rpm.

- Bryan

 

My ra redlined at 6500 and was holding like 16-17 psi on cams tune.

 

Sounds about right.

Some data from my personal RA:

3750: 24.52
4000: 24.24
4500: 23.41
4750: 23.32
5000: 22.58
5500: 20.78
6000: 18.54
6250: 17.31
6500: 16.09
6750: 15.11
7000: 14.24

- Bryan

 

sorry to thread jack, but wouldn't an upgraded WG actuator help hold boost on our RA's? and could we use an aftermarket one designed for an EVO X?

 

 

i'm looking forward to seeing what comes of this. people think that Cam messed around with the settings on his dyno to mess with the numbers, but why would he bother? he said the car is peaking at 27.5 PSI, why would he lie about that either? i'm sure he can back it up, if the dyno sheet isn't enough.

 

I don't know about those numbers, my ralliart didnt run anywhere near those numbers either, and I had the boost pill in it, UR intercooler, with upper and lower pipes, UR downpipe, and mini muffler, cat removed, UR intake, EVO X BOV, and custom magnaflow exhaust, mine ran 251WHP and 291WTQ...

So I don't know..