Hey guys i have been doing some research and came up with these products below that i am looking to buy, but before i do i wanted to get your guys's expertise and opinions first. I have a 2011 ralliart that is a daily driver, not looking to race or do anything crazy, just want to get a decent power gain, and not have to worry about switching too many parts or repairs here and there. So my question is do you think this list is solid, or anything else i should consider adding/removing? Like i said i just want a decent power gain, i dont wanna get stuck having to keep upgrading parts or putting alot of stress on the engine/transmission. Also about how much power am i looking at gaining with these parts? (car is stock minus custom magneflow exhaust) thanks in advanced for your comments, it will help greatly!

-AEM Cold Air Intake
-AMS Intercooler + Upper Piping
-AMS Blow out valve
-AMS Boost pill
-Re tuned at RRE.

 

sounds good, if anything i would finish it off with a fmic that way you have everything you need to expand in the future.

 

That list sounds good, if you dont mind the sound I would finish it off with a turboback exhaust system if you want to see really good power gains

 

If you don't want to burn a hole in your motor

DON'T

GO

COLD AIR INTAKE

 

Thanks for the reply guys. Much appreciated. And are cold air intakes that bad? I wasn't aware of that, is there any particular reasons? Please let me know if u can, would help greatly. This is the intake I would be buying if that helps, not sure if it makes a difference.

http://www.aemintakes.com/search/pro...x?Prod=21-678C

 

Ignore people who make generic statements with no explanation. You'll be fine with an intake as long as you have it tuned. There is a bit of a debate on if an intake actually needs a tune or not (I think it has to do with MAF housings, but dont quote me) but at the level of mods your talking its worth it to go ahead and do it. Do some research before buy though.

 

Cold air intakes take away much needed cool air from the radiator. It also goes deep enough to the bottom of the car it picks up water from the ground. This is what burns a hole in your motor. It is a common issue and should be used on track only evo x/ralliarts

 

Say What? Please point me to some threads where people have "burned a hole in their motor" from driving with a CAI under normal conditions. Trying to ford small rivers during heavy rains with a CAI is not normal driving.

Also saying a CAI takes away much needed cool air from the radiator is the craziest thing Ive heard on this forum (its amazing how often Ive said that to myself recently). I don't know of a single CAI that sits in front of the radiator that could interrupt the air flowing over it.

 

And on the idea of the CAI sucking up water... The entire filter needs to be submerged for it to pull significant amounts of water up. Even the lowest of CAIs sit above the plastic skid plate. Most cars are sitting 4-5+ inches off the ground. If the conical filter is pointed down the top of the filter is 5-6 inches above the skid plate. That will put the top of the filter 9-12" above the ground. Thats a significant amount of water and those are measurements on the short side, its more likely that the filter will be more than a foot off the ground.

Most stories about people hydrolocking their cars are from people being stupid driving through large amounts of water. It is a risk you take but if you are smart when driving its something you should never encounter. Ive driven cars with CAIs for 6-7 years and never have had an issue.

 

haha thanks for the reply's guys i feel a lot better now, i was a little skeptical at first when i heard that, i don't have a great knowledge on after market parts but i was pretty sure cold air intakes weren't breaking down engines. i do appreciate all input though, it always helps in the end. thanks! Once all is done ill post some pics and charts. got a big to do list with exterior mods as well. hopefully it all comes together and looks/runs awesome.

 

I base my knowledge off what I hear from mods, mechanics and evo shops. This has been stated first to my knowledge over at clubralliart.com from one of the mods. Then by two well known shops here in dallas, tx (Cobb and Evo Dynamics). They have even had Evo's come into their shops that had this issue happen on more than one occasion. Also, in the base model Lancer 2008+ thread, someone with an ES stated he had this same issue and had to turn his car off. Luckily, the mechanic said the water had already dried up that started to mess with his engine.

I'm not calling you a liar, but I'm definitely going to listen to shops that have broken these cars down to the bone and even made better parts for them to perform better. Although they are separate businesses, their answers on just about everything is the same.

 

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying its impossible to damage your engine with a CAI. Im just saying you have to go way beyond normal driving to get it to happen. Yes people have hydrolocked their engine by driving through large amounts of water. However, the number of people who are running CAIs in all cars is far greater than those that have had any damage. With the number of people running them on this forum I would expect to see multiple threads about it if there was an issue with the part alone.

Id be concerned if a company told you a part was dangerous for your car yet still continues to sell them too.

 

all i can say is good choices with ams i love the ams intake! and all their parts really. also if your going with an ams bov and upper pipe might as well get the lower IC pipe with the TiaL bov already installed with the pipe instead but thats just me. and as for your gains no one can really say but the tune alone will be significant enough to notice. im sure you will be plenty happy with your outcome and good luck

 

That is a new one.

 

I believe Cobb only sells the sri last time I checked their website. I do agree with you fully on the cai intake being an awesome product, its just that something like this can't be overlooked as "at your own risk" when its a more than average mod problem issue. Although topics aren't started about it doesn't mean its not true. Personally I can list several situations where picking up some water would be all too easy, but I guess this all depends on where you live and your region. Im not trying to make a debate out of this, I just figured that everyone on this forum is here too help one another. Also, most noobies would rather hear from a shop dedicated to their car than another forum member who they can only go by their word on the matter.

You guys are more than welcome to call up any well known shops, they most likely will tell you something similar or the same thing. Anyways, good luck with your build!