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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 03chi-town0Z
I have verified, by part number, 100%, the CAMS ARE THE SAME! That's why I expected the same of the crank, but never bothered to look it up while at the dealership because it seemed so unlikely that they'd be different
my fault i didnt know that its been confirmed that they are different
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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I'm not replacing a crank to a stroker. I want to retain stock stroke to keep high RPM.
How high can the SST rev? I thought it started to act up >8500?
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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8500 is about the limit but bit stroker engines have to limit the revs down to 7k if I'm not mistaken
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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I think a 94mm manley crankshaft can get up there like in kozmic's MR, just if you "had" to replace the RA crank with evo x one, for the extra 400$ might be something to consider.

I'm starting to price together something similar so this whole different crank between RA and Evo has thrown a wrench in the works.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Someone just confirmed to me that has both a Ralliart and EvoX crank in hand that they are visibly different and the EvoX is in fact forged.
pics?

chi-town want to confirm when you get a chance on the crank pn's
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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The Ralliart and Evolution crankshafts are the SAME. The LANCER has a different crank (which is actually more expensive). A lot of this confusion is caused by the fact that the X was produced here in 2008 but not 2009, and 2009 is the year the Ralliart came out. Look on any OEM Mitsu parts site and you will find that the RA and X crankshafts are identical, while the Lancer's is different.

Sorry to burst the bubble of whoever is enjoying bringing this up over and over, but the engines are identical inside and out.

http://www.mitsubishipartscenter.com...ent=CRANKSHAFT

http://www.mitsubishipartscenter.com...ent=CRANKSHAFT

http://www.mitsubishipartscenter.com...gramCallOut=25
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gaabbee
pics?

chi-town want to confirm when you get a chance on the crank pn's
I'll have to see if I can find somebody to get me back into the database. Sadly I no longer work for Mitsu since they closed down our store
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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Just because the parts numbers are the same, doesn't mean the parts are. Did you know that the casting of the actual transmissions for the MR and Ralliart are different but have the same part number?

It seems to be the same case for the RA and EvoX crank, same part number but different piece.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 06:06 AM
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Understood, but it is done by application as well as part number, which included interchangeability (I don't even know if that's a real word) that's how I found out about the cams. I have never looked up the crankshaft since I always just assumed they were similar
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jasoob
Just because the parts numbers are the same, doesn't mean the parts are. Did you know that the casting of the actual transmissions for the MR and Ralliart are different but have the same part number?

It seems to be the same case for the RA and EvoX crank, same part number but different piece.

Just to make this clear I'm not trying to question your knowledge or experience in any matter, I want to clear this up once and for all so rumors don't start and I'm sure you agree with me on that because this forum is filled with them.

Now I don't want to go off topic too much but from what I understand you mean by castings of the sst, Getrag changed the outside look (idk about internals)of the sst from 08 and 09s to 10 and higher. Ex. 3 drain plugs vs 2 on newer models. Your not confusing that difference are you? You can swap a mr sst into a ralliart without fitment issues so again I don't see why Mitsubishi would want a different design in pretty much the same package of the same years.

We need pics of everything to put this to rest. Just by going off of what I know or you know or who said this or that is just non factual information. Then we can make a true and false thread and post it as a sticky so 10 people can actually look at it instead of making a million new posts about all the annoying rumors such as the ralliart having evo 9 awd and different clutches then the mr and different cams...ect. So if you have any pics of the question items...post it up!
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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next time i go to kaizen i will take a picture of my ralliart crank then we need a picture of an evo one to compare them
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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EvoX crank:
http://www.maperformance.com/oem-cra...-1100a139.html
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoob
Just because the parts numbers are the same, doesn't mean the parts are. Did you know that the casting of the actual transmissions for the MR and Ralliart are different but have the same part number?

It seems to be the same case for the RA and EvoX crank, same part number but different piece.
I beg to differ I am a mechanical engineer for a company that produces many Japanese OEM parts. just for reference Toyota has 2 tier one suppliers and we are one of them. if the part has any difference at all the part numbers are different.


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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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I beg to differ I am a mechanical engineer for a company that produces many Japanese OEM parts. just for reference Toyota has 2 tier one suppliers and we are one of them. if the part has any difference at all the part numbers are different.


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I'll have pictures soon to prove the cranks are different.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoob
I'll have pictures soon to prove the cranks are different.
What year was the Evo X crank?

I'm willing to bet that a 2008 and 2010 X crank could appear different.
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