Ralliart vs EvoX Crank
there is no way that a part that is made differently and is not the same has the same exact part number. if that was the case how would they determine which one was which when ordering one. your saying the person in the part department would have to know which one was which by looking at them.
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Exactly. I posted the links of the X crank and Ralliart crank. They are the same price and same part number. The only different one there is is for the Lancer.
Jason, if you have an X crank and a Ralliart crank in your hands and they are miles apart from each other, then I am truly mind ****ed. Only explanation would be that Mitsu changed the look from the 2008 to 2010, but they both are definitely forged.
Jason, if you have an X crank and a Ralliart crank in your hands and they are miles apart from each other, then I am truly mind ****ed. Only explanation would be that Mitsu changed the look from the 2008 to 2010, but they both are definitely forged.
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I'm waiting for Kaizen to get back from PRI. They both at their shop and will be taking pictures. Now, maybe the confusion is a year to year thing as well and maybe not a difference between Ralliart and EvoX, but maybe 2008 vs 201x like you said.
I'll post them up as soon as I get them. Most likely late next week when everyone is back from Florida. Trust me, I'll be really happy if they're both forged. That means the Ralliart crank is forged and can handle 500hp. I can retain stock stroke and bore/sleeve/rod/piston. While the block is out, SSP/Fidanza SST flywheel is going in
I'll post them up as soon as I get them. Most likely late next week when everyone is back from Florida. Trust me, I'll be really happy if they're both forged. That means the Ralliart crank is forged and can handle 500hp. I can retain stock stroke and bore/sleeve/rod/piston. While the block is out, SSP/Fidanza SST flywheel is going in
Off Topic: Hate to burst your bubble, but why in the hell would you stroke a motor for a RAD? The stock motor out flows a RAD by miles, a bigger one will only be worse (i.e. quicker drop off of boost/torque). For a drag racer you want rising torque for long as possible (or at the very least flat).
The only benefit I could see would be for a Rally application (but they usually require stock motors), or a very expensive Auto X car.
Back On Topic: We get these rumors ever 6 months that xyz is different between RA and X. They all turn out to be false (buyers remorse
), and I expect this to be the same. As has been stated already, every "guaranteed difference" has been regarding production year not sub-model (of the few instances in which there is a difference, i.e. casing of SST).
The only benefit I could see would be for a Rally application (but they usually require stock motors), or a very expensive Auto X car.
Back On Topic: We get these rumors ever 6 months that xyz is different between RA and X. They all turn out to be false (buyers remorse
), and I expect this to be the same. As has been stated already, every "guaranteed difference" has been regarding production year not sub-model (of the few instances in which there is a difference, i.e. casing of SST).
Official Mitsu Publishing (if that says anything):
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/rele...4b102739/print
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/rele...4b102739/print
The 4B11 T/C features a cross-drilled forged steel crankshaft that rotates in 4-bolt main bearing caps.
What's ur main goal with the car? If u have the OEM Crank it's more for auto X, You can get it knife edged and with the correct supporting mods u can get 10k RPMs out of it. If u want HUGE power you will want the stroker kit and u can get 8500 with the one listed on the MAP site. So according to the max rpm u can get out of our car it will lower the RPM but it will give u much added torque in ur low to mid range RPMs. So for our car I would do stroker for MASS Power (DRAG) and get the OEM Crank machined for Auto X. Also remember that your cylinder head is the brain of the engine. That will need to support the mods u do on the short block. I would change everything in the head, dual springs, titanium retainers, nitride valves and a amazing CAM, port and polish the head and what ever else u can do! Remember this is where the air flows for the turbo! It's the whole brain of the operation! This is just my 2 cents!
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Agreed, and it's most likely going to be a track car. Plans have changed and I'm really going all out with my car in the spring. That being said, I am retaining stock stroke (either with RA or EvoX crank once I sort that out). I'll probably be swapping to a much larger turbo as well.
Nice!
Looking forward to seeing what set-up you choose
For next season (Jan) I'm going FP Red, and if I get my way a 2.2 at some point
Looking forward to seeing what set-up you choose
For next season (Jan) I'm going FP Red, and if I get my way a 2.2 at some point
Last edited by sstevojr; Dec 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM.
You've gotten the gist of it. General assumption, since at least 03/2011 is actually that:
What's the difference between the Evo X and the Ralliart?
From the valve cover to the oil pan, and everything in-between on the long-block, both cars are the same. The air filter, catalytic converter, hood, antenna, and crappy interior (including audio and other accessories) are the same. Anything outside of that is where the differences happen.
From here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...reference.html
That is why this is such a debate.
What's the difference between the Evo X and the Ralliart?
From the valve cover to the oil pan, and everything in-between on the long-block, both cars are the same. The air filter, catalytic converter, hood, antenna, and crappy interior (including audio and other accessories) are the same. Anything outside of that is where the differences happen.
That is why this is such a debate.
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I think a 94mm manley crankshaft can get up there like in kozmic's MR, just if you "had" to replace the RA crank with evo x one, for the extra 400$ might be something to consider.
I'm starting to price together something similar so this whole different crank between RA and Evo has thrown a wrench in the works.
I'm starting to price together something similar so this whole different crank between RA and Evo has thrown a wrench in the works.
