Guys, what sort of times are u's running with what mods? Yesterday I ran 16.73s at the Benaraby Raceway. Mines a VRX sedan with cat-back 2.25"exaust. I'm weighed down by a decent stereo and didn't get the best start (street tires not good on slick surface) so I was wondering if any one else has some times. Does anyone know the power/weight, or 1/4 time for the average VL Commodoore, cause my goal is to beat one without adding a turbo.

 

Sounds a little slow but, considering the weight I guess it is not so bad. As far as VL Commodores go, I would like to ask you how are you driving your car, you should be able to beat a VL Commodore quite easily. I would like to hear from anyone else on this matter. Also another thing Sandman are you interested in joining the Queensland Lancer club?

 

yeah.. I live nearly 600km from Brisbane though... as for the beating a VL- I've never actually dragged one.. I've gone a slightly worked VP though... smashed him 0-90km/h (he had a **** start) MORE REPLYS GUYS!!!!

 

i have dragged a VL... not proper drag race, street race, and he got dusted!!

how do you guys go driving style wise to get the best out of the car/ race?

i wanna know what to do, so i can always beat this crappy excel that is my nemisis!!!

LAURA

 

An EXCEL, you must be kidding, they are the biggest heaps of junk on the road. I truly do not understand the ********* who go out and by those poverty pieces of crap and put a huge kit and rims on them, it is like doing up you wheelie bin. As for beating them, I can understand why you want to. But if you do beat them, will it bring any shame anyway, if that affected them they would not have bought a Excel to begin with. As for driving styles, when accelerating do not plan your foot so hard the wheels spin, ease off a little before the point when you spin, then you must remember peak torque is at 4500rpm and peak power is at 5500rpm, so it is recommended that you change around that point, wheels will definately spin a little going into second, but that is something that I would rarely worry about, as for first to second is such a quick change. Double clutching is recomended, but if you don't know how to do it well it will kill you, so don't try it for the first time when racing. There is obviously more but, that is all you will need to beat that idiot box.

 

I know that is why i need to whoop their skanky *** next time i am lined up at the lights.... o and belive me, this guy thinks his excel is the fastest thing since a ferrari... total loser in denial!!!

but anyways, thanx for that, i will keep it in mind next time i get a chance to flog his ***!

LAURA

 

Here are some performance specs:

1.5L Excel
74kw @ 6000rpm
134Nm @ 4000rpm

1.5L Lancer
69kw @ 5500rpm
126Nm @ 3000rpm

1.8L Lancer
86kw @ 5500rpm
161Nm @ 4500rpm

It's hard to knock back what they've done to their Hyundai 1.5L engine - comparing it to Mitsubishi's. By no means am I giving the Excel props as a whole, tho! I personally think they are turd on wheels.

With those figures, between a 1.5L Excel and Lancer - it should be a close race...
between an Excel and 1.8L Lancer (plus good driving) - should be an skanky-***-whoopin.

 

The one excel I did race on the track had me off the line... street Falkens **** on a slick surface... but by half track it was all over... I had about 2 lengths and it had exhaust, filter and maybe a chip?
I might just try out this VL beating theory of yours.

 

The 1.5L Lancer will still beat the Excel, due to the rpm when the torque comes in and peaks at. For the excel to get to the 74kw figure, the driver would have to drive in a straight line for 300-500 meters. It is unlikely that the two cars will race that long in a straight line.

 

The Kw and Torque (Nm) values show the maximum power the car reaches when they hit the specified rev value - not the maximum power the car reaches only at "top speed".

1.5 Excel vs 1.5L Lancer
At every gear change, the Excel reaches a higher torque than the Lancer - meaning the Excel is able to pull the weight better/quicker (theoretically).
Between them, there is f-all difference in power...meaning a close race, which pretty much brings it down to the skill of the driver.

Look at it this way:
==1.5L Lancer==
69kw @ 5500rpm
126Nm @ 3000rpm

==1.5L Excel==
74kw @ 6000rpm .... ?? kw @ 5500rpm
134Nm @ 4000rpm .... ??? Nm @ 3000rpm

At the same rev value, you'd expect them to have the same power output (give or take...)
Hard to call.

Excels are still turd on wheels, tho!!

 

The power figure you gave is not for all models of the Excel. The Excel base model has 65kw and is 970kg, apposed to Lancer 1.5 69kw with 950kg. Both models are base. So power to weight is Lancer at 13.76 and Excel at 14.9. This is not taking into consideration, slower gear changes, due to terrible transmission on the excel. Even the Hyundai Accents 76kw is going to have trouble, due to the power band and transmission. Remember the Lancer also comes in 1.8Ltr. Both the 1.5ltr and 1.8ltr Mitsubishi engines respond more to modifications than the excel or accent models. Korean Vs Japanese, I will leave it with you to determine, which has the better quality.

 

The Lancer CC GL model has 65kw and 950kg

 

Anybody have a conversion from kW(?) to hp? this would be helpful

 

Yeah 1hp = 0.7457kw

 

sweet, thanx ppl, mine is a 1.8 (MR) so i am confident now for some serious *** wooping this thursday nite!!

LAURA