AMS please fill us in on the details if you can. Rumor hears it that you are in development and testing of your own Alcohol Injection kit.

First is it true?
If it is does it use the stock water IC bottle?
Does/Will it have an option use the AEM for control?
Does/Will it have an low level indication light?
What is expected cost?

 

i would like to know that too.

 

Bump

 

Didn't he do a write up on this too, with water injection?

 

It is being developed. We will have more details soon.

 

Any rough estimate as to when it may be available? Thanks

OT- Micah, did you live in Orlando, Fl a while back?

 

We put one of our final production kits on an EVO VIII yesterday and it worked very well. Unfortunately it was wet out so we couldn't get too crazy with it. Lets say that at 18psi I could advance the timing about 4-5 degrees more and still have less noise than just running 93 octane. We started to crank the boost but the road conditions where just too slippery. We should have kits ready to go pretty soon. I'll have more details tomorrow.

-Martin

 

Good deal! Martin, will the kit work with the AEM on the No2 control so you can add fuel and retard timing when it doesn't engage? Just one saftey parameter that I really want.

Thanks for the update!

 

Martin, is it possible to take the ground side of the pump and use that as a LS input on the AEM EMS? I would like to use the ground off of the pump as a low side input so if the pump has a clog, low pressure, etc. that the AEM EMS will use the Alt function to retard timing, add fuel, and if you are controlling boost thru the AEM to back it off as well. I have seen a kit that uses just a $40 relay that is controlled solely by the AEM and the relay pulses the pump for the injection, but after further research I would like a seperate system to control the meth injection but still have the AEM monitor the pump to bring the tune back into a safe region if anything were to happen to the meth injection via a clog, low pressure, etc.

 

The only problem there is to determine when the pump fails, pressure drops, flow decreases. You would need a hobbs switch and an inline-flow meter and then use some kind of circuit to trigger a switch if the flow drops below a certain rate to output to the AEM. So yes it's doable but there is a lot of cost and complexity involved in doing so.

-Martin

 

Please keep us updated. How much will the kit cost?

 

I'm just wondering if it's something similar or different from Buschur Racing.....and will you have another tank so I can still use the IC sprayer?

http://www.buschurracing.com/cgi-bin....cgi?18X376545

 

This is why I decided to wait, I wanted to see the differences as well so hopefully we will find out soon. I have seen buschur's kit in action and it does the job well.

 

Here is a wiring diagram and tuning document in regards to a kit that has been used in the Supra community with great results. Also, I have attached a AEM EMS menu that can be loaded into AEM Pro for meth injection. Could the safety feature's this setup is using be implemented with your system or not since you are using a seperate controller for the flow of meth/water and this system is using the AEM to operate the relay?

 

Also will the AMS kit be a progressive rate or just one flow at any PSI level. Progressive meaning will it increase the flow amount at a higher boost level or not?