I recently blew my motor, I was running all stock internals (besides 272 cams and headstuds) with a 20g9 and meth. I had all the other supporting mods needed. Timing belt problem and it jumped timing... My question is, I have a stroker being built and I want to keep the 20g for now but I dont know if my 720 injectors will be enough? I want to be able to have a racegas tune (28-30) and regular pump tune (22ish) what do you think? Also I know philly evo has ran an 11.3 on 23 psi but what kind of power can I expect with this setup?

 

i think one guy has already done it here.... that's the setup i'm going with too.... hopes to be a torque beast!

however i'm confused as to why you'd be running 22psi on meth and pump? or are you ditching the meth?

i think 720cc should cover it, maybe do 780s for safety? good luck, PM me some numbers when you get her on the dyno!

 

Im ditching the meth, its too finicky feeling ive never really trusted it. I think philly evo was only running 680s I dont really know. Why are you selling the 20g if your giong with this setup?

 

I am going with the following mods, and will be tuned Next week.

AMS 2.3 stroker
HKS 280 Cams
TME turbo (same or close to the 20G-9?)
AMS meth injection
PWR intercooler
Injectors (whatever they reccomend)
HKS DLI spark amp.
Forge BOV.

I should have video/dynographs to post for you guys!!

 

The Philly evo has this setup? and ran 11.3???

 

2003 SILVER EVO VIII MODS:BUSCHUR 2.3 stroker, Exedy Twin Disk, DNP O2 HOUSING. TURBO XS DOWN PIPE, CAT DELETE PIPE, TURBO XS CAT BACK, WALLBRO FUEL PUMP, HALLMAN MBC, BOOST GAGE, Buschur Intercooler and upper/lower IC pipe 272/272HKS Cams & cam gears, Buschur intake w/ K&N filter, 750 cc Injectors, Buschur 20g 9 turbo. AEM EMS
TUNED by: David Buschur @ Buscur Racing/DYNOFLASH referd
365 whp and 375 ft lbs of torque. C16
11.3 @ 119mph
Best 60' 1.656



Thats his sig...

 

Thanks LUKE!! We will see what difference (if any, the Meth makes)

 

He was on c16 and a 20g I dont think with the tme and meth it will go 11.3 I would say 11.5's but still strong.

 

11.5 is fast enough to get me to the grocery store in a hurry ! I would be happy with that!! Anything Sub 12's is where I want to be!!!

 

I was at 313 on a DD dyno, which is 360 on a dynojet? that was with Pump-gas and 2.0L. Now I added the stroker/injectors and Meth, and the HKS DLI II, so I should be higher in HP is my guess. (Over Philly evo) no?

What Meth kit do/did you have?? How did the motor blow? spun rod-bearing like mine??

 

2.3 + 20G-9-5 + Buschur tuned AEM EMS + C16 > 2.3 + TME + stock ECU + meth/pump

 

It will make more peak hp but will probably make similar/less tq.

Scorke

 

I was talking about power and drag times, which is what this thread seemed to be about, but you're right that the TME would probably have more power at 2500 -3000 rpm...if that really matters. After that, either turbo would be fully spooled on a 2.3.

 

add XEDE into the mathmatical equation, same result? ( a stock ECU wont run all this stuff, but could a "flash?" on the ecu. or is it recommended piggyback or standalone.

 

this is very interesting. i want to see results as well. IM thinking about doing a 2.3ltr with TT racing Real 20G.