Im sure it was just an oversight.. I for 1 didnt see anything wrong with the post.. I spend 100's of hours on here helping people who dont buy parts from us.. Lets not make it seems as AWD doesnt contribute plenty to the forum..

Mike

 

I don't think I suggested that you aren't a contributor on EvoM. If you read that into my post, I apologize, as it wasn't my intention.

I did, however, suggest that it might be worthwhile to show a bit more appreciation for the work of others if you plan on profiting from it, and I won't apologize for that. Some minor name recognition is the only reward that most of the people who work on the stock ECU receive right now.

Anyway, that's all I came in here to say, and I've said it. Best of luck to you.

 

You have many options available to you.

1. A simple notification of the SD code that was being used, who developed it etc.... would have been nice.

2. Your company can offer all the parts in your catalog at cost to the peoples code you are using. That cost you nothing but a little time to pack and ship stuff which is NOTHING compared to the time that these guys put in.

When stuff like this happens you will realize more benefit by being able to see more easy to use roms and code for the stock ecu platforms (including the evo x).

 

Its a fair debate. I applaud AWD for offering the service for people that dont know how to get it up and running. I also give a super thanks and praise to the people who spent countless hours to make the patches. It wouldnt be a bad idea that these people get a kick back, and/or recognition, but you know what happens when you release free software.........its like people with money lining up at the soup kitchen. AWD has said that a donation will be setup and I believe it. My .02c

 

The difference between me and you is that you spend that time in hopes that you gain customers and respect.

I do it because I love the community and like to help others with no intention to gain personal profit from the assistance.

Do that without taking someone else's hard work and packaging it as your own.

 

Hello,

For owners like maself with a JDM EVO IX and also resides outside the US, what is the best approach for executing this conversion?

 

1. You are correct it was an oversight to have not mentioned them and i have spoken with Derek about it and he said he did forget that day to add that to it..

2. We have plenty of overhead here i cannot stay in business giving away parts at cost.. I have employees to pay that receive, pack and ship the products..

3. We have Sold 3 hardware kits.. We arent turning millions here.. If you look at the breakdown of the kit we arent profiting any more than we were on just a standard tune..

150.00 for hardware..

50.00 for install..

400.00 for SD tune..

I thought it was a great idea to make it simple for our LOCAL customers to get an idea what the whole package would cost them.

Ill discuss what a fair donation is with derek.. We have tuned 2 cars with SD so far..

Mike

 

I agree with you guys, and i do apologize. I failed to mention credit towards the ecu developers in this thread. I have expressed my appreciation to them in many ecu related topics. But again, i failed to mention it in this thread. We are in no way trying to take credit for the patch, we are simply offering the service. I have donated to the developers in the past, and my original plan was to set aside money from each SD conversion to serve as a donation, but i wanted to keep a fair price. Let me give you guys the break down so you can see that we really are not profiting off of this.

price is $599
-$150 for the parts.
-$50 for the installation of the map sensor, welding and installation of AIT sensor, and wiring into ecu.
-$100 dyno time
-$300 Full custom tune. not just converting to SD. this includes 3-4 hours of road tuning, followed by dyno for WOT tuning.

We charge $350 for a standard tune. Subtract the $200 from the SD package for parts and labor. you are left with a $400 tune. there is $50 left on the table which accounts for the 3-4 extra hours of tuning involved in SD. I think that is pretty fair.

We are not selling the patch that was created by someone else. the patch is free, and readily available to everyone. Its the tuning that is involved in getting the car to run correctly. To those that may not be familiar with the patch, so you know, you cannot simply load the patch and be on your way. the car has to be logged, tuned, logged, tuned over and over until everything is in check. Now if it was just a matter of loading the map, charging the customer and sending them on there way, that would be a whole different story.

Again, i apologize for the lack of credit to the developers in this thread. i will change that asap. thanks for your time..

-diiirk

 

I wish you guys were more local. I hate my stupid MAF.

 

Just so everyone is on the same page:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ty-vendor.html

Here is the original post:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...y-patches.html

Here is my post v7 with SD implemented:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...hramod-v7.html

Links to issues people are having:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ttle-hang.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...y-problem.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ity-issue.html

 

I heard that the stock ecu s/d is bad for road racing because of the horrible partial throttle. No dis to awd or anything like that. have these issues been resolved?

 

Only just noticed this thread since I pop in less often now I am in GTR land and working on that ECU for Cobb.

I didn't take a cent for any tuning or coding work I did for Evos, as it was for the love of it! I wish every success to any vendor that can wrap developmental stuff neatly and market it to customers.

I always found licensing of open source work more complex than the work itself and never bothered. Maybe I broke rules because I didn't put credits to the original authors in my stuff, although I don't think the modified Mitsi ROMs or Ecuflash were under GPL as there was no source code?

Anyway, I'm cool with it, appreciate the credit on the vendor's page, but really I wouldn't have demanded it at all.

Wish I could sort these driveability issues, but I didn't notice them on JDM ROMs including lots of daily driving, and I just don't have the time now to look at it and have forgotten a lot as my head is crammed with the GTR project. I think it needs someone that understands the code to be able to play on a US car live to test it.

Has anyone thought of using my JDM ROM on a US car? I made the reverse work and put details as has logic on here somewhere. The US ROMs have all sorts of weird code in them, the JDM ones are far more tolerant to changing things, probably a better based to work from as you guys have sorted all the OBD reports.

 

This is a very interesting question...is this possible?

 

you need nothing but a new rom for your car. PM me if u want it.

 

anything is possible with time and effort.

i have a JDM IX if u want me to try SIMPLE stuff like bits etc, to get 8859 on my car let me know.

quick thing, how will the USDM rom interface with my ACD/AYC and other little things like the Tranny Sensor.

i think this needs a new thread, sorry AMS.