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Dec 2, 2008, 12:01 PM
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its common sense that AWD cars are better than FWD cars in weather conditions like we have! or else they wouldn't ADVERTISE it! its not that hard to understand that they could be safer and more reliable in winter conditions.
Dec 2, 2008, 12:05 PM
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sounds like this guy has crashed an AWD car before and just thinks they dont do anything because he himself is a bad driver. lol.
its common sense that AWD cars are better than FWD cars in weather conditions like we have! or else they wouldn't ADVERTISE it! its not that hard to understand that they could be safer and more reliable in winter conditions.
its common sense that AWD cars are better than FWD cars in weather conditions like we have! or else they wouldn't ADVERTISE it! its not that hard to understand that they could be safer and more reliable in winter conditions.
You seem to be completely missing the point, a car is only as good as it's driver. If your argument is purely that because they advertise it, it's true, you are truly naive.
Dec 2, 2008, 12:17 PM
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thanks for playing? playing what?
my argument is that AWD is BETTER with winter tires on compared to FWD with snow tires! not that hard to understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydva0Ce3brk
thats not in english, but if you have eyes, you will be able to see what im tlaking about! WOW!
my argument is that AWD is BETTER with winter tires on compared to FWD with snow tires! not that hard to understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydva0Ce3brk
thats not in english, but if you have eyes, you will be able to see what im tlaking about! WOW!
Dec 2, 2008, 01:06 PM
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Why are you guys arguing about it?
AWD > FWD > RWD in adverse weather conditions with equal tires AND equal drivers.
A RWD car can survive just about as well as an AWD car in deep snow with a safe driver. But, I can undeniably go faster (and safer) in snow with equal tires than a C2 could. Otherwise I would've saved the money and just bought a C2.
To a point, a car is only as good as it's driver, but if that was the only factor then, well... I'd be driving the cheapest piece of crap I could find and be smoking GTRs and Evo Xs.
Not really, but you see my point. Without S-AWC do you think the X would be anywhere near as fast?
I agree with you completely Amby, it really makes a much smaller difference than people think, and we get all sorts of idiots here. You really think your big SUV with CostCo all-seasons can do more in the snow than my C4 with snow tires JUST because it is an SUV with super fancy 4x4-ness. No... And I'll see you tomorrow when you run head-on into the freeway divider. But that isn't the point being made here by the people against you amby, their point is that, with equal drivers and equal tires awd is safer than fwd. They may be in the league of the idiots I described above who think that AWD makes you godly compared to FWD, rather than just realizing it gives you a slight advantage.
Also: Everyone, remember that none of that matters when stopping or turning (unless you are on the gas while turning). The main (and really only) place that AWD matters is with acceleration.
AWD > FWD > RWD in adverse weather conditions with equal tires AND equal drivers.
A RWD car can survive just about as well as an AWD car in deep snow with a safe driver. But, I can undeniably go faster (and safer) in snow with equal tires than a C2 could. Otherwise I would've saved the money and just bought a C2.
To a point, a car is only as good as it's driver, but if that was the only factor then, well... I'd be driving the cheapest piece of crap I could find and be smoking GTRs and Evo Xs.
Not really, but you see my point. Without S-AWC do you think the X would be anywhere near as fast?I agree with you completely Amby, it really makes a much smaller difference than people think, and we get all sorts of idiots here. You really think your big SUV with CostCo all-seasons can do more in the snow than my C4 with snow tires JUST because it is an SUV with super fancy 4x4-ness. No... And I'll see you tomorrow when you run head-on into the freeway divider. But that isn't the point being made here by the people against you amby, their point is that, with equal drivers and equal tires awd is safer than fwd. They may be in the league of the idiots I described above who think that AWD makes you godly compared to FWD, rather than just realizing it gives you a slight advantage.
Also: Everyone, remember that none of that matters when stopping or turning (unless you are on the gas while turning). The main (and really only) place that AWD matters is with acceleration.
Dec 2, 2008, 02:37 PM
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thanks for playing? playing what?
my argument is that AWD is BETTER with winter tires on compared to FWD with snow tires! not that hard to understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydva0Ce3brk
thats not in english, but if you have eyes, you will be able to see what im tlaking about! WOW!
my argument is that AWD is BETTER with winter tires on compared to FWD with snow tires! not that hard to understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydva0Ce3brk
thats not in english, but if you have eyes, you will be able to see what im tlaking about! WOW!
Dec 2, 2008, 03:12 PM
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Why are you guys arguing about it?
AWD > FWD > RWD in adverse weather conditions with equal tires AND equal drivers.
A RWD car can survive just about as well as an AWD car in deep snow with a safe driver. But, I can undeniably go faster (and safer) in snow with equal tires than a C2 could. Otherwise I would've saved the money and just bought a C2.
To a point, a car is only as good as it's driver, but if that was the only factor then, well... I'd be driving the cheapest piece of crap I could find and be smoking GTRs and Evo Xs. Not really, but you see my point. Without S-AWC do you think the X would be anywhere near as fast?
I agree with you completely Amby, it really makes a much smaller difference than people think, and we get all sorts of idiots here. You really think your big SUV with CostCo all-seasons can do more in the snow than my C4 with snow tires JUST because it is an SUV with super fancy 4x4-ness. No... And I'll see you tomorrow when you run head-on into the freeway divider. But that isn't the point being made here by the people against you amby, their point is that, with equal drivers and equal tires awd is safer than fwd. They may be in the league of the idiots I described above who think that AWD makes you godly compared to FWD, rather than just realizing it gives you a slight advantage.
Also: Everyone, remember that none of that matters when stopping or turning (unless you are on the gas while turning). The main (and really only) place that AWD matters is with acceleration.
AWD > FWD > RWD in adverse weather conditions with equal tires AND equal drivers.
A RWD car can survive just about as well as an AWD car in deep snow with a safe driver. But, I can undeniably go faster (and safer) in snow with equal tires than a C2 could. Otherwise I would've saved the money and just bought a C2.
To a point, a car is only as good as it's driver, but if that was the only factor then, well... I'd be driving the cheapest piece of crap I could find and be smoking GTRs and Evo Xs.
Not really, but you see my point. Without S-AWC do you think the X would be anywhere near as fast?I agree with you completely Amby, it really makes a much smaller difference than people think, and we get all sorts of idiots here. You really think your big SUV with CostCo all-seasons can do more in the snow than my C4 with snow tires JUST because it is an SUV with super fancy 4x4-ness. No... And I'll see you tomorrow when you run head-on into the freeway divider. But that isn't the point being made here by the people against you amby, their point is that, with equal drivers and equal tires awd is safer than fwd. They may be in the league of the idiots I described above who think that AWD makes you godly compared to FWD, rather than just realizing it gives you a slight advantage.
Also: Everyone, remember that none of that matters when stopping or turning (unless you are on the gas while turning). The main (and really only) place that AWD matters is with acceleration.
Dec 2, 2008, 07:29 PM
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If that be in the snow I could understand. Most drivers out there don't know how to drive in these types of conditions. It doesn't matter if you have 85HP or 300HP AWD of FWD if you can't drive then you can't drive. Winter Driving tests should be conducted for everybody eligible. Cause if you are able to drive, and I mean safely and effectivly in the snow then you can drive in almost any condition. The problem is now if you are unable to drive safely then you should't be driving. Its a priveledge not a right!
On a side note the driver must also learn how the vehicle operates Wither it be AWD, FWD or RWD and that should be performed in controlled area under supervision. that way nobody is in harms way. I know too many people who went out got themselves a ride and wound up smashing into something because they don't know the limitations of the vehicle, again thats not problem with the vehicle thats a problem with who is behind the wheel.
On a side note the driver must also learn how the vehicle operates Wither it be AWD, FWD or RWD and that should be performed in controlled area under supervision. that way nobody is in harms way. I know too many people who went out got themselves a ride and wound up smashing into something because they don't know the limitations of the vehicle, again thats not problem with the vehicle thats a problem with who is behind the wheel.
Dec 2, 2008, 08:29 PM
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If that be in the snow I could understand. Most drivers out there don't know how to drive in these types of conditions. It doesn't matter if you have 85HP or 300HP AWD of FWD if you can't drive then you can't drive. Winter Driving tests should be conducted for everybody eligible. Cause if you are able to drive, and I mean safely and effectivly in the snow then you can drive in almost any condition. The problem is now if you are unable to drive safely then you should't be driving. Its a priveledge not a right!
On a side note the driver must also learn how the vehicle operates Wither it be AWD, FWD or RWD and that should be performed in controlled area under supervision. that way nobody is in harms way. I know too many people who went out got themselves a ride and wound up smashing into something because they don't know the limitations of the vehicle, again thats not problem with the vehicle thats a problem with who is behind the wheel.
On a side note the driver must also learn how the vehicle operates Wither it be AWD, FWD or RWD and that should be performed in controlled area under supervision. that way nobody is in harms way. I know too many people who went out got themselves a ride and wound up smashing into something because they don't know the limitations of the vehicle, again thats not problem with the vehicle thats a problem with who is behind the wheel.
