Smogrunner,

Just found this topic, have alot of reading to do, on page 3 you said we had an EMS on our car tuned within an inch of its life. This is VERY far from true. We had an EMS on our car tuned safely as I have given that tune out to quite a few guys right out of our laptop.

Curt weighs probably 40 pounds less than Tym does, Curt has a sheetmetal intake manifold and larger throttle body, Curt has ran 9.4's with no nitrous in an AWD DSM, Curt didn't lift on the shifts, Tym did. Quite a few differences. Also, we have another Stage 4 customer that just recently ran 122 mph in the 1/4.

These times while very possible will not be reached by someone that isn't an expert driver.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

I agree. Im running close to 11.7 and am still on the stock intake and exhuast manifolds, stock IC, Stock clutch, etc. Also havent touched my stock turbo. My car with me in it weighs over 3300 pounds. Lastely my car was tuned with the utec by me and my best freind on the road and has a lot more left in it. Curts time is very very possible.

again great job curt.

Hopefully soon I will be in the low 11's with the stock turbo.

ERIK

 

Curt,
Whatever you are up to I want in. Doug(former Boost Solutions mech/tuner thank God for former) and I talk almost everyday about how we are going to pull something out of our behinds to get a better time on the stock turbo. Obviously you have found what we are looking for. When you post times that are better than other peoples on here they tend to question you and say that they don't believe. These same people said the same crap to Doug and I when we started running 11s quite some time ago. I used to get mad and argue back but it really doesn't matter. I was in the 11s no matter who believed me. Curt, I'm going to Iraq soon so how bout I leave me Evo with you and you can hook me up and bill me. You have the fastest stock turbo Evo. I can deal with it. It's tooo bad others can't. I can't wait untill I get back from the desert so I can join in on all this fun again. For now I'll try to soop up my tank. It has a Garrett turbo in it. So it must be tunable. It really does have a Garrett turbo. Take care everybody. I will see you all soon enough. Congratulations Curt.

Matt

 

It is not the times that anyone has questions about, it is the MPH. 124mph is so amazing, and so much faster than everyone else, that only a dummy would just accept it without asking questions.

David,
Tym S. posted on your home forum that your shop evo was very aggressively tuned for that 117+ mph and not recommended for the average joe. I looked for the thread where he said that, but couldn't find it. I have no problem whatsoever believing 117mph, even 119mph, but we are talking about 7mph faster than your fastest mph. Weight savings and a slightly more aggressive tune do not account for 7mph.

 

Unless our intake mainfolds or so dame restrictive and one with a TB can give you 7mph.

I don't know?

Eric

 

did u use pump gas as well?

 

Thanks Matt. I had all intentions of quiting this stock turbo craze but with all the latest hype im going to run the car again soon(month or two) down south with some changes to the car, another 30-40hp, some susp adjustments, a LSD, and a good set of drag radials. Problem with the 11.23 run was the 1/8th mile, with the changes to the car it should get there at least 2-3 tenths quicker and the car should pick up a bunch of MPH, I found a few things holding the car back from last time out, everything is fixed and with the next round of changes it should run around 10.90@127 or so.

 

But when it comes to a 137 degree ambient air temp correction factor on the dyno, that is somehow easier to believe? Maybe you should be looking at your own tuning (or tuner) for the answers.

Nice run Curt.

 

Real nice. (Must be grumpy about the Bozz butt whoopin you took with Rys Millen driving your car?) Maybe we can get back on topic now.

I'm extremely happy with my tune. I'm in the 11's at about 115 with a unmodified 16g mitsu turbo (10.5ti, no porting or port matching, minimal weight reduction (less than 100lbs), stock: bottom end and head, airbox, intake mani, throttle body, exhaust maniford o2 housing, full exhaust with muffler, stock wheels, full weight rotors, and all the built in safety, drivability, and emissions functionality of the stock ecu. I'm a complete amateur driver, and I did it with full lift shifts at one of the slowest tracks that anyone knows of: Fontana. I don't make these points to compare with Curt, he is clearly in another league than I, and apparantly every other racer on Evom. I'll say this though, there is noone anywhere near the west coast running 11's at 115mph or above with the stock turbo in an evo as of now. Shiv does just fine.

 

....but the car looks nice.

 

Oh Damn

 

Curt keep it up, and good luck on your venture for better times on the stock turbo. I see ALOT of haters in here and it will be even more fun to read when you post better times .

 

I think this quote says a lot, because everything matters including the small things. If you want to go quicker you need to make changes and curt has a lot of small modifications and a lot of driving tricks to get the additional MPH. If you figure that Buschur Stage 4 cars have gone between 116-122 without the driving and HP tricks, then you see that it's not the big modifications, it's the small modifications that matter. If you put a ATP GT35R, a reflash and a fuel system on a stock car are you going to see the same results as AMS GT35R project car?

 

damn dude congrats thats a fast pass for a stock turbo not a bad 60' but it could get better maybe with better tires and some better weather u could go even faster

like i said congrats nice car

 

Curt What rpms are you shifting at? and what wheels and tires are you running?