All the newbes are cry babies IMO. 108 trapspeed on pump shifting into 5th gear equals a decent tune. BTW What are the AFR and why are they lean because someone said they were.

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...9&page=1&pp=15

 

Why should u respect me. Work's and Al's flashes are all doing so much better from what u have seen. Not out here and I guess Shiv must be losing his touch or a bunch of cry babies that want to run 11s on pump gas have unrealistic goals. The latter is what I suspect and I hope Dynoflash or works delivers u the goods.

 

As you can see in my first post , I said I was "pleased" with my time. I did not start this thread crying about anything, I just posted my time and mods.

Then someone commented on my low MPH and i should expect more. I then proceded to tell him I believe my MPH is low cause of my off tune. Thats when the crap hit the fan and people started pushing buttons. I never wanted this to be a F#*K shiv thread.

but now that you bring it up, I feel i should let it out. You said that Shiv took the time and drove your car after the dyno to make sure there were no issues, Well guess what???!!! after my tune he was no where to be found. He never drove my car like he did with all the other before me, maybe if he did he would have been able to catch this minor hicup in the tune (cause I have been told cars run leaner on the street then the dyno) He might have been able to detect the knock or pull in timing. (customer service error #1.)

then when I go dyno my car at a seperate location and it gets yanked off the dyno for running lean and fear of blowing up, I posted my graph and asked for help. Shiv said himself he saw that at 6200 rpm it was pulling timing but also said I was not lean when clearly I was. All I wanted from shiv was "Chris, get a laptop, hook up the xede call me and I will walk you through how to add more fuel for a more safe tune" .... did I get that... NO (customer service issue #2)

But did not pry on this, NO

I simply dropped the thread and thanked everyone for there input and started looking for another tuner. I dont want to loose the xede cause it is a great tuning tool, but I need to find a trustable local tuner for it (or learn myself)

I am happy with my time and that is what this thread was about nuff said!!!!

thanks everyone...

out

 

They really dont need adjusting, IMHO.

Just run it and enjoy...

shiv

Words from the tuner. Shiv tunes leaner than some. If I remember correctly not wanting to increase cylinder pressure with higher boost levels.

 

Why should I respect you??

Well as you can see, I guess i'm still a newbie and I do a lot of research and I have come across many of your threads and good advice. You usually handle yourself is a mature manner. But after the personal attack on Az3ar and myself I feel that the respect you earned is now gone.

 

His first reply

"Hi Chris,
The AFRs are no lean so there is no reason to worry. I see knock retard at 6200rpm, causing a loss of 10-15whp up top. Without this retard, the car would make, by my estimates, 320-325whp. A few questions: Who's dyno is this and what kind of fans do they have?

shiv"

hmmm, I wonder why I have knock at 6200?? maybe cause I am running very lean? Yes, NO... what do you think

I'm not a tuner that's why I ask these questions

also I was not given any instruction on how to correct this, I paid $350 for a tune from him, the least he could do is tell me how to get rid of the knock

 

Chris, just let it go man they wont understand. I already feel soo bad for referring you to Shiv.

 

As you can see, I tried to let it go!! But some people dont want to stop, and i feel I need to protect myself (one of my flaws i guess)

No more needs to be discussed on this subject, Shiv doesnt want to help me fix the problem so I need to go else where. Thats all there is too it

Thanks,

Chris

 

Thats funny coming from you , considering your attitude on the evom hasn't been of someone who shows maturity
If you really wanted to help the guy you would point him to those who could give him answers (Shiv), or give an explanation of what was happening if you knew. But you didn't do either, all you did was come out and insult the guy ...

 

Something tells me Chris don't wanna be pointed to Shiv...

 

Ever think that the gas might have something to with it. Also I drag raced numerous times as u know and depending on conditions my car would trap anywhere from 108-112 mph and run 12.2-12.5. One time my car ran crappy for some reason and i couldn't break 12.6 at 108 mph. Instead of complaining I changed spark plugs and made sure I had good gas along with some other lil tweaks. Did 12.2s all day with terrible high 1.7- high 1.8 60 fts at 110-111 mph. I was happy and with a good 60 ft 12.1 was possible but never happened with my 1+. My point is eventhough ur car dynoed crappy on the dynojet it was apparent at the track it was runnin fine and from my experience my car had good days and bad days also. In the DSM world this has been paramount and part of the 4g63 game. This car is as tempremental as a hot chick and u just have to live with the bad days know and then. FWIW Since u are Azar's buddy I think u should sell ur xede and go dynoflash. I feel if Azar had not had his experience with Shiv ur discontent with his tune would not have come out in ur post. I can read between the BS and I see a bunch of meaningless crybaby conjecture and I think u should move on. When u say they Works is making more power I know this is an Azar collaborated attack. IMO 12.4 at 108 on pump shifting into 5th is not bad. Stay in 4th thru the traps and run 12.1 at 112+ mph on pump. If I had to make an extra shift I would run 12.3 at 114 with my stage 3. So I say u and Azar are crybabies at best and need to stop ur all out passive aggressive assault on Shiv. I cannot believe people can't see through this BS.

 

Good leave. He likely would help u but being associated to Benedict Arnold might have something to do with it. Give Shiv credit for being semi intelligent. I am sure Judas will lead u to the promised land as in Dynoflashed. It is so funny how Azar blames his s hitty times on his driving but u blame urs on the tune. No matter what Shiv does he will just waste his time helping u IMO. Al has come a long way as a tuner and since he offers better customer service and is more accessable go for it. Shiv likely wants to rid himself of anybody associated with Brutus.
Funny Azar runs 12.5 at 110 mph staying in 4th with a turbo upgrade and u shift into 5th and run 12.4 at 108mph on the stock turbo. Tell me whose car is underachieveing? Azar says his s-hitty driving was the culprit for his 12.5 at 110. U run 12.4 shiftin into 5th LOL at 108 mph but ur tune sucked but u are Curt Brown and despite ur tune u still did 12.4 at 108 mph. Shifting into 5th and good driving is an Oxymoron IMO. Keep it in 4th u moron even if u hit the limiter right before the traps and u would of did 12.1 at 111+ mph U guys are a joke and only a fool can't read between the lines.

 

Dude... you may be able to read between the lines, but you obviously cant read what is written!!!

I said I want to KEEP the xede, I just want this minor hicup fixed. The only reason I had zero issues at the track is cause I was running half a tank of 93 octane and 4 gallons of 104 (in fear I might knock and blow up, i simply used it as insurance, not a power adder) Do you know what is like paying $350 for a custom street tune ment for 93 octane and then having to drop $20 for race gas everytime you want to push your car in fear that it might blow

and I never said I was unhappy with my ET, just the MPH. How many times do I need to post this? (oh i guess you cant read it cause you are caught up with whats written inbetween the lines )

keep calling me a cry baby, I have no intrest in your opinions

I have posted many times that I want this subject dropped (man, i'm a little crying bit*h huh!)

you say all these newbs are babies, well its becoming appaparent to me that the elders are dicks with their heads stuck up their own ***'s

 

IE,

with every post you just make yourself seem more like a dick, In no way has Az3ars problems affected my feelings on my tune (I think the graph speeks for it self)

You oviously have a personal agenda here and I seem to be caught in the middle of it. Keep reading your imaginary story that is written "inbetween the lines" I will stay here and live in reality


:edit: I hope Shiv knows that you are posting in his behalf now, cause wow, just wow :edit: