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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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hmmm Post a Time slip...better yet a video!
timeslips are posted in my thread. a vid was taken but hasnt been uploaded yet. times are true to the fullest. sorry!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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what is so hard to believe, i was there when he ran those times, and when he ran his 13.0 @105 BONE STOCK.........i came from an awd vechicle, that dont mean ****, and this guy is a WAY better driver than me...
Well, Ok, I guess that you guys have a reliable source of information. It was kind of rare case to run that fast with these little mods, but again It seems like you guys can make that car run that fast.

Anyway, congrats on the run .
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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WhiteEVo311,

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Made 3 passes last night and all were 12.3. Mods are custom 3inch no cat, safc, hks drop in, 110 octane. My best 60ft. was 1.71. Ill post the slips tonight. i need cams I want 11s.
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I guess that I missed the 110oct issue. Now makes more sense. ..
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SeanJhn9
a) those are all the mods he has, well if you consider springs a performance mod
b) it was hot that day as he said
c) no, it is not in an inclination
d) no they arent off, another buddy with an afc/3" tbe/cams/mbc is running 12.0's @114-115 all day long
tony has 272s, exhaust, afc, injectors and pump thats it. 12.07@114 with stock clutch is what he ran, and i bet he gets 11s when he gets more seat time. I think on a good night at sealevel I could have cut a 12.1 no problem. its all good though, id be hating too if I wasnt running those times.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteevo311
tony has 272s, exhaust, afc, injectors and pump thats it. 12.07@114 with stock clutch is what he ran, and i bet he gets 11s when he gets more seat time. I think on a good night at sealevel I could have cut a 12.1 no problem. its all good though, id be hating too if I wasnt running those times.
No man, it's very doubtful. You ran 13.0@105 stock, which is exactly what the rest of us 05 owners run, yet you are trying to tell us that you picked up .7s and 6mph with TBE and S-AFC. That doesn't make any sense, because your boost didn't change. The elevation obviously isn't a factor unless they automatically adjust the times at your track to account for the elevation difference. You most certainly would not be running a full second and 9mph faster at sea level with just a TBE and S-AFC. Think about it...that's about 80-100whp. Also, the fact that you cut low 1.7s on the stock clutch is very suspect...of the track, I mean. My stock clutch doesn't grab hard enough to cut a 1.71, much less do it on 3 of 3 attempts.

Something is definitely awry here. I don't know about the rest, but I'm not saying you didn't get those times. I'm just saying you don't gain 80-100whp with TBE and S-AFC on stock boost. Your car is not a factory freak, because you ran normal in stock form. It's strange that you had no AWD experience and knew how to launch in the low 1.7s with the 5k limiter in the way, but I guess you figured it out right away somehow...
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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actually mr. know it all my car was running in the 10s for afr without any safc adj., but with race gas i took out 15 percent across the board and it was running 12.0 average afr, and the car came alive. felt like it did pick up like 40whp easy. I made one pass with pump gas on these mods with no adjustments and i only trapped 108. which is still good for only exhaust and drop in filter. I also disconected my two step. Im launching at about 6500 and Im dropping it. The car has a built in restrictor to keep the clutch froming grabbing to hard so its about perfect on the launch. Try again, your not making anyone a believer.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteevo311
actually mr. know it all my car was running in the 10s for afr without any safc adj., but with race gas i took out 15 percent across the board and it was running 12.0 average afr, and the car came alive. felt like it did pick up like 40whp easy. I made one pass with pump gas on these mods with no adjustments and i only trapped 108. which is still good for only exhaust and drop in filter. I also disconected my two step. Im launching at about 6500 and Im dropping it. The car has a built in restrictor to keep the clutch froming grabbing to hard so its about perfect on the launch. Try again, your not making anyone a believer.
Try again what? I'm not being a **** here...I also use an S-AFC, and I was ALSO below 10 AFR above 5200rpm when I dyno'd in stock form. I added my S-AFC and tuned into the 11s to run the 12.8@106. With a cat-back, I think I could hit 108mph on pump while tuned, and then with the MBC I hope to get 109 or 110. Without raising boost and ELIMINATING boost taper, I would not expect to shoot all the way up to 111mph with 110oct, even with the S-AFC leaned out 15 percent. On 93, i already get to -13/-14 at the top, so 15 wouldn't be a huge difference for me. Plus, I ran my time at 55 degrees near sea level. You are supposedly at high altitude and at a "slow" track, which is obviously not the case for your car.

As for the launching, I also disconnect the 2-step and launch around 6500, but I don't dump like you say you do, since it doesn't work well on the stock clutch to begin with and is extremely harmful to the drivetrain. I feather slightly, and it absolutely cannot grab hard enough to pull 1.71 regularly.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Well take my advice, everyone on here. Run 110 race gas straight, tune car for low 12s afr, launch hard dont slip, if its an 05 it does it for you. My clutch has yet to slip and Ive made like 20 passes now. Slipping the clutch is what heats it up and destroys it. Dont believe everything you read, I know what feels right and damn does it feel right. Never lift the gas and shift at 7000. I never took it past there. Im telling you I pickup mad power on race gas leaned out.


other stock evo owners here are running 13.3-13.8
Mine ran a 13.1 with me driving and thats with using the two step. Launch was weak, 1.88 and still trapped 105
i guess I just need to drive a few more evos to see if its just me or my car. But all I know is that I dont lie and my times and mods are true. Peace out haters.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteevo311
Well take my advice, everyone on here. Run 110 race gas straight, tune car for low 12s afr, launch hard dont slip, if its an 05 it does it for you. My clutch has yet to slip and Ive made like 20 passes now. Slipping the clutch is what heats it up and destroys it. Dont believe everything you read, I know what feels right and damn does it feel right. Never lift the gas and shift at 7000. I never took it past there. Im telling you I pickup mad power on race gas leaned out.


other stock evo owners here are running 13.3-13.8
Mine ran a 13.1 with me driving and thats with using the two step. Launch was weak, 1.88 and still trapped 105
i guess I just need to drive a few more evos to see if its just me or my car. But all I know is that I dont lie and my times and mods are true. Peace out haters.

you can always run mine at the track next time were out there
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Those times are pathetic. im sorry but at 2700ft with just exhaust and safc i ran 12.3@111
This is also my first awd car and Im still learning. That car on the bottle should have went 11.5 all day long. I know its hard to drive a car with alot of power but there is a point where no matter what the car has to go fast because it just has that much power. I would be imbarrassed to post those times.
I do not lie and I dont know why my car is as fast as it is. i dont mean to critize cause its not my style but I think those times are weak
wow, ime not embarrased to post anything. I thought it went well for a first time out. What I AM embarrased at is behavior like yours. Juvenile reactions like that make me not want to help others out or seek help for my issues...."move along, your not the roids were looking for".........
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Well, here's a little secret that all of yall can try, if you don't already know, and I'll bet you'll notice a difference in your trap speed and et. I have the time slips to prove and plenty of friends and members on here that can atest to this. If I shift at 7k everytime, I have to shift into 4th before the 1/8mile mark. Now seeing that I don't get to run the 1/4 mile. You'll have to adapt to this a little different, but instead of shifting at 7k. take 1st to 7200, take 2nd to 7400 and 3rd to the rev limiter and you'll be past the 660mark. In the 1/8th mile I gain 5-6mph (went from 84,85 to 90mph) and broke into the 7's with my stock clutch and crappy track and driving on my behalf. Now, once I get a chance to run the 1/4 mile. i'm gonna take 3rd to 7500 and the rev 4th all the way out. it'll definately make a difference if your not allready doing that. If yall remeber, just try it. I can almost promise it'll make a difference, at least in the 1/8th mile anyways. Good luck yall and congrates on the nice times everyone.

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteevo311
Those times are pathetic. im sorry but at 2700ft with just exhaust and safc i ran 12.3@111
This is also my first awd car and Im still learning. That car on the bottle should have went 11.5 all day long. I know its hard to drive a car with alot of power but there is a point where no matter what the car has to go fast because it just has that much power. I would be imbarrassed to post those times.
I would be embarrased if I spelled it "imbarrased".
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteevo311
Well take my advice, everyone on here. Run 110 race gas straight, tune car for low 12s afr, launch hard dont slip, if its an 05 it does it for you. My clutch has yet to slip and Ive made like 20 passes now. Slipping the clutch is what heats it up and destroys it. Dont believe everything you read, I know what feels right and damn does it feel right. Never lift the gas and shift at 7000. I never took it past there. Im telling you I pickup mad power on race gas leaned out.

other stock evo owners here are running 13.3-13.8
Mine ran a 13.1 with me driving and thats with using the two step. Launch was weak, 1.88 and still trapped 105
i guess I just need to drive a few more evos to see if its just me or my car. But all I know is that I dont lie and my times and mods are true. Peace out haters.
More falsehoods. The stock clutch most definitely does slip on its own due to its weakness, ESPECIALLY if you are dumping. Also, dumping is not only bad for the clutch, but incredibly bad for the drivetrain. Shifting at 7k is not good either, because you continue to make hp ABOVE 7k, and if you shift that early, you aren't in the sweet spot of the next gear. It's getting more and more unbelievable now...
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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sweet how about I drive your car to some respectable times and we can go from there. Its not my fault I can drive my car better than you. peace out Im done with this.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteevo311
sweet how about I drive your car to some respectable times and we can go from there. Its not my fault I can drive my car better than you. peace out Im done with this.
Who are you Curt Brown JR? Also no lift shifting is probably a big key in this equation. No lifting above 7000rpm probably would not work so i believe that u shift at that. I noticed my 3-4 shift at about 7200 done quickly wouldl give me better time when I was less modded.Tranny tends to lock u out above that when shiftin fast and slow shiftin = coming off boost. Guys no lift shifting (not coming off boost) is how this guy is able to out do many other owners. I am just p issed at his attitude and calling others Weaksauce. He no lifts and he runs great times with minimal mods. Others have done it before him. However puttin others down because he can drive his azz of or his car is a freak or a combo of both is weak. Most with your Mods trap lower and run slower ETs. Good job but don't be a Richard Cranium about it. OUT!

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