its called running 13 degrees of timing on 93 oct. w/ the afr's at 11.5 give or take, it is a great tuning device, even you said it, but i honestly dont know how it could have gone haywire like that....and for an much knowledge you claim to have, you certainly dont know much about power, an nx system is rated at whp, so if i use a 100 shot, i'll prolly pick up 100whp, now since you seem to believe there is now way on earth to accomplish 450awhp on a stock turbo boost alone, even w/ a 100 shot on top of that, it'll put it at about 550awhp, which alot of people have seen on stock block's and head's, and thats where tuning comes in, running a 100 shot just means using less boost/timing (which are most responsible for making power) than anyone would usually use on race gas, which is the only time i plan to run the n2o...of course running 10 degrees of timing and about 30 psi w/ a 100 shot and afr's in the low 12's would kill the engine w/ out a doubt, but i wont be running it like that, i'll prolly have it set at around 21-23 psi w/ an uncertain amount of timing yet, which will allow a 100 shot to be used SAFELY...hell i could run a 200 shot if i really wanted to, but i'd have to be running virtually no timing and boost at about 10 psi .....the only thing that would have me worried would be the torque, as i dont know how much torque the stock block can handle, and a 100 shot will add quite a bit of torque

 

warr knows as much as hes done, and a little more. just like the rest of us hes learning, and trys his best to help =)

ive never seen a mod path like yours.. interesting haha. still dont know how you were knocking with your mods...

 

I gained 90 whp with a 50 shot (nos wet shot)NX is rated whp on N/A cars,on our cars a 100 shot is like 150whp putting to much stress on your engine specially on the weak pistons.

 

Sean, you contradict yourself. You say you are going to have 550whp somehow by adding a 100 shot to 450whp on the stock turbo (never been done), yet you then say you can only run the 100 shot with reduced timing and boost. Um, wouldn't that mean you'd be far, far short of max power on the turbo just so that you can add that 100 shot? I don't think you'll get too close to 10s.

 

I run that timing on my 35r with pump 93 gas for point of fact. I also have an EMS. The tune just sucked or you had a hell of a boost leak or both.

As far as running a 10 because you have the power... well it just doesnt work that way normally

On our stupid DSM we had the power for a few months to hit a 10 with the 3076r but there was always some problem... the clutch quit, the fuel pump quit, couplers broke, cam gears snapped, etc... Good luck on your quest however!

 

lol....i was just implying that if somehow my car made 450awhp, becuase you find it impossible to beleive, that even w/ a 100 shot, it would put it right around 550awhp, that was guesstimating, yellow gsr said he gained 90whp out of a 50 shot, so in order for my engine to survive, i'm now going to have to run less timing/boost than originally planned because if a 50 shot adds 90whp, i'd like to see what a 100 shot adds, but time will tell how close i'll be to the 10's

a local guy and friend just went 11.8 w/ fewer mods than me, i have the ems, intake mani, bigger cams, and a 100 shot on top of him, i dont see how it wont put me into the 10's

 

yeah, i'm in need of a tune bad lol, hopefully i can get it all squared away, and hit some 11's on pump, to show some people that its possible to do it w/ the right mods

 

oh i know he does, but every thread i see him in, he's knockin on other people because HE doesnt think its right, and at the same time, i've seen him give some helpful info, but when he comes into my thread and tells me what my car will and wont do, i tend to get a little mad, just like anybody else would, because i know what it's capable of doing, and what it will do, and wont do...but as far as my mods, i'm just trying to get all the supporting mods done before i go w/ a bigger turbo, and enjoy the stock turbo for a while

 

Supporting mods are a *****. Hitting 10s is no joke though. Even EvilEagle had problems getting into the 10s and he makes a crapload more power. Not too many people have done it on the stock turbo. I think Curt Brown is the only one so far? He had a completely BUILT motor too. Build your motor or huff more air in there, or if you can afford it do both I think a realistic goal for you is mid-high 11s. AEM really doesn't give you THAT much more power over the stock ecu, it just gives you more flexibility on how much boost you can run for larger turbos. It helps driveability a lot too. I only gained 2 mph from the stock ECU to my AEM. For reference my best stock ecu pass was 11.5 @ 123. Part of that is bad driving since 123mph should net a low 11. AEM also helps with larger turbos because you can raise your rev limit, allowing you to run in a larger turbos powerband longer.

As far as your tune goes, you need to get that **** fixed by Jake. That is way messed up.