someone help me understand.... 11.8 @119mph??
Oh, you think it's normal for stock VIII turbos to trap 119 on 100oct? Haha, don't we all wish it was that easy!! Even with 100oct, these are absurd trap speeds for only 22psi. I have never heard of nor seen nor dreamed of a stock turbo'd Evo trapping that high on 22psi. It just doesn't make sense, similar to how it makes no sense to gain 16whp from a 1psi gain on the stock turbo. It simply cannot flow enough air to gain power like that when it's already at the limit of its efficiency and flow capacity. So, there is no explanation to why this car is so fast, but it is certainly IS fast. It's pretty amazing - I just wish we knew what was causing it.
cbrtrx, why did you mention that you gain 28mph in the back half without mentioning that it's because you run nitrous? That was a pretty lame thing to do.
cbrtrx, why did you mention that you gain 28mph in the back half without mentioning that it's because you run nitrous? That was a pretty lame thing to do.
Actually, Jeff's splits point to the thread originator's splits being even more suspect. Notice how Jeff is slower to the 60', 330', and 660', but then he gets to the 1/4 at the same time with a lower trap speed. These two 5 spds have different gearing, though. I'm actually wondering how Jeff managed to trap nearly 119 on the IX 5spd when 4th gear is so short. 119 is well past the stock rev limiter and even beyond the normal Dynoflash rev limit (7800).
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Oh, you think it's normal for stock VIII turbos to trap 119 on 100oct? Haha, don't we all wish it was that easy!! Even with 100oct, these are absurd trap speeds for only 22psi. I have never heard of nor seen nor dreamed of a stock turbo'd Evo trapping that high on 22psi. It just doesn't make sense, similar to how it makes no sense to gain 16whp from a 1psi gain on the stock turbo. It simply cannot flow enough air to gain power like that when it's already at the limit of its efficiency and flow capacity. So, there is no explanation to why this car is so fast, but it is certainly IS fast. It's pretty amazing - I just wish we knew what was causing it.
cbrtrx, why did you mention that you gain 28mph in the back half without mentioning that it's because you run nitrous? That was a pretty lame thing to do.
cbrtrx, why did you mention that you gain 28mph in the back half without mentioning that it's because you run nitrous? That was a pretty lame thing to do.
You only gain 25 in the back half on a nearly stock Evo if you're weak on the front 1/8th. There's no reason for you to be surprised about having huge gains in the back half with nitrous. The nitrous is doing all the work. Your car without nitrous is nothing special.
The point is it is improbable to make those numbers with the list he gave us. I think there is something more to the puzzle, or the boost is actually more than he thinks.
Let me give you a comparison, my turbo(sc61) on pump gas @ 22psi made around 400whp. So how could a turbo much more smaller than mine put out similar numbers? Catch my drift? Like I said it is improbable.
Let me give you a comparison, my turbo(sc61) on pump gas @ 22psi made around 400whp. So how could a turbo much more smaller than mine put out similar numbers? Catch my drift? Like I said it is improbable.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Actually, Jeff's splits point to the thread originator's splits being even more suspect. Notice how Jeff is slower to the 60', 330', and 660', but then he gets to the 1/4 at the same time with a lower trap speed. These two 5 spds have different gearing, though. I'm actually wondering how Jeff managed to trap nearly 119 on the IX 5spd when 4th gear is so short. 119 is well past the stock rev limiter and even beyond the normal Dynoflash rev limit (7800).
Originally Posted by saywhen
^^ no......he is gaining 4 mph faster then you in the back half. That is a huge difference.
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vwjeff you gain 25.07 (118.76-93.69) from the 1/8 to the 1/4
he gains 28.98 (119.02-90.04) from the 1/8 to the 1/4
28.98-25.07 = 3.91 in his favor on the back half. He is making up that 3 mph (you have on the front half) you have on him at the 1/8.
Besides, your gearing is different, turbo is different, you have mivec, and can run more boost on 93 oct than the VIII. So comparing to a VIII just isnt the same.
On a side note: now Im really thinking I should get some cams for my car. I run 115.96 on 100 oct with 25 peak - 22 at 7k (at least thats what I ran last time with my leaking hg
). Cams would be good for another 20-30whp right? Might pick up a few (1-2) mph there...tempting...very tempting...
he gains 28.98 (119.02-90.04) from the 1/8 to the 1/4
28.98-25.07 = 3.91 in his favor on the back half. He is making up that 3 mph (you have on the front half) you have on him at the 1/8.
Besides, your gearing is different, turbo is different, you have mivec, and can run more boost on 93 oct than the VIII. So comparing to a VIII just isnt the same.
On a side note: now Im really thinking I should get some cams for my car. I run 115.96 on 100 oct with 25 peak - 22 at 7k (at least thats what I ran last time with my leaking hg
). Cams would be good for another 20-30whp right? Might pick up a few (1-2) mph there...tempting...very tempting...