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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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Hello all,

I know I am alot slower than most cars on here but slowly I am making some headway into the racing game.

I recently ran these two back to back times. (EDIT 13.175 and 13.127)

No one believes I can pull 1.4 and 1.5 60foot times like these on 10 pounds of boost. The car might have been spiking to 12psi but I did not check until this morning.

Anyway, Track conditions were no track bite and fairly cool weather for this time of year. COuld not be specific on the temperature.

My previous best is in my signature with 1.8 60s on an old engine.

The new times are on a fully forged rebuilt engine.

Oh, Last thing I am an Evo 2 but hopefully some of the old dsm'ers or basically those in the know about times can verify this possibility for me.

Thanks for any replies.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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those ARE amazingly low 60's but they seem to be in line with your ET and trap speeds. Most evos running 13.1 trap 103+

Do evo IIs only run 10-12 pounds of boost in general?

Also if you did this at orlando speedworld it's even more impressive because it is not the best prepped track.

What kind of tires used and what was the launch method?
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Timers were off.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Timers were off.
No they weren't
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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No they weren't
Huh? Why not? How about giving a reason to support this random post? He didn't just go from 1.8 60's to 1.4-1.5 60's. Those are damn near impossible for ANYONE, but especially for WADADLIG who is just a regular guy who never even hit a 1.7 60' before. A built motor doesn't suddenly give you elite 60' times...

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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I ran 1.4's on my 9 sec dsm.... but that was a light auto car with slicks
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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take it easy...

This is not at Orlando speedway. I used to live in Orlando but I am out of the country right now.

I launched the car as hard as it was possible for me to do so. I did not limiter launch.

To me the timers have to be correct because the only way for me to have run the 13.1 is if my 60foot is that good. Nothing is impossible. The 1.8 60s were using a different method of launching and I never did go at it quick like last night.

I have on street tires. Hankook 106s on 15 inch stock rims. I am not just an average JOE by any means. Many passes at Orlando speedway although that was when I only drove an NA lancer. Once you learn your car the same rules apply.


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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mcwop23
those ARE amazingly low 60's but they seem to be in line with your ET and trap speeds. Most evos running 13.1 trap 103+

Do evo IIs only run 10-12 pounds of boost in general?

Also if you did this at orlando speedworld it's even more impressive because it is not the best prepped track.

What kind of tires used and what was the launch method?
Evo 1-2 run around 10psi stock while the Evo 3 runs 12psi.

Only from the 4 up did Mitsu start cranking the boost.

I think the car might have been creeping a little boost though. I now have on a 3inch downpipe compared to the 2.5 inch before. Forgot to add that into my original post. I was getting 11-12 psi on the way to work this morning when I actually checked the gauge.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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No, that's why the timers are NOT correct. The only reason you got those splits and final ET are BECAUSE of the 60' being off. In fact, it's probably not the 60' that's off - it's the whole start light that's off by several tenths. The slips are very hard to read, but it looks like the R/Ts are way off, too, unless you actually sit at the light for a long time after it turns green before launching. Did you actually sit there over 3.5 seconds after the green light on one of them?

Sure, nothing is impossible, but do you really believe you "changed" your launch method and suddenly did better than the AMS and Buschur 8-sec Evos? Seriously...do you?

Yes, you are an average joe - just like me. If I went from doing high 1.6s/low 1.7s to suddenly doing 1.4-1.5s on "street tires" on a surface with "no track bite," no one would believe it either (nor would I). Why would you think running "many" passes at Orlando Speedway makes you other than an average joe. You said you used to run 1.8s in this exact car - that's below average actually. I have close to 1000 passes in my life with 60's ranging from 1.61-1.75 in 3 different AWD cars, all of which were at least 10mph faster than yours. I'm sorry, but it's ludicrous to think you went to a poor track and started randomly hitting 60's that defy physics.

Do you really believe you did this?

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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My best 60' in the drag car is 1.40 and lemme tell you, it feels pretty crazy.

To achieve that 60' time, you have to be doing almost 60 mph by the 60'. With Evo II gearing, that would be somewhere almost midway thru 2nd gear.

Plus I don't think any car that runs 78 mph in the 1/8th has EVER gone an 8.1.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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I hate to agree with War but he's right. The timers were off. If you don't believe it, go to another track and back it up. Even with an AWD, you will NOT cut 1.4x 60 foots on regular street radial tires. Will not happen...sorry.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Huh? Why not? How about giving a reason to support this random post? He didn't just go from 1.8 60's to 1.4-1.5 60's. Those are damn near impossible for ANYONE, but especially for WADADLIG who is just a regular guy who never even hit a 1.7 60' before. A built motor doesn't suddenly give you elite 60' times...

I'm just busting ***** bro. You seem to be one of the Gurus when it comes to the Drag Racing threads so I just thought I'd "Stir the Pot" to see what reaction came out of you I agree that that something is off with the timers too.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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No, that's why the timers are NOT correct. The only reason you got those splits and final ET are BECAUSE of the 60' being off. In fact, it's probably not the 60' that's off - it's the whole start light that's off by several tenths. The slips are very hard to read, but it looks like the R/Ts are way off, too, unless you actually sit at the light for a long time after it turns green before launching. Did you actually sit there over 3.5 seconds after the green light on one of them?

Sure, nothing is impossible, but do you really believe you "changed" your launch method and suddenly did better than the AMS and Buschur 8-sec Evos? Seriously...do you?

Yes, you are an average joe - just like me. If I went from doing high 1.6s/low 1.7s to suddenly doing 1.4-1.5s on "street tires" on a surface with "no track bite," no one would believe it either (nor would I). Why would you think running "many" passes at Orlando Speedway makes you other than an average joe. You said you used to run 1.8s in this exact car - that's below average actually. I have close to 1000 passes in my life with 60's ranging from 1.61-1.75 in 3 different AWD cars, all of which were at least 10mph faster than yours. I'm sorry, but it's ludicrous to think you went to a poor track and started randomly hitting 60's that defy physics.

Do you really believe you did this?

I have been running this by all my car friends and some thinks its possible.

One reminded me that I have changed my clutch to an ACT HDSS since my previous runs.

I have to believe I achieved it because the slips say so.

I never attempted to launch this hard before and let me tell you I have never felt anything like it. The one thing I have over your cars in the US is weight. My car weighs 2700 pounds.

Only time will tell but the launches lastnight felt as perfect as I could have made them. Previously the car used to spin tires but lastnight the grip was much better.

Oh and yes...I sat at the light until I was ready. Lastnight was all about timeslips not winning races. I made the 2 passes by myself. There is alot less to think about when all you are trying to do is launch. After the 1st run I called someone and they said no way. SO the second pass I sat at the light for the 3.5 seconds until I was good and ready.

WHen I get my fuel pump in I am going to crank up the boost a little more and try again but I doubt I will try to launch like that again. It just can't be good for the drivetrain.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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As for the stuff about Orlando speedway. WHat I meant was that I didn't just jump up and race. I have seat time behind the wheel.

If you look at my Lancer slips you will see I have one of the best times ever achieved on the board. Driver skill has to count for something. Even then people didn't believe. THose times were at the Speedway however and on track bite

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Driver skill doesn't get you 1.4 60's. That requires tons of HP and drag slicks on a very well-prepped track. You _may_ have hit a 1.6, which would feel incredible, but you don't seem to realize the magnitude of a 1.4 60'. You don't even have enough power to do that much less the available traction even if you had the power.

It seems you are convinced you accomplished the impossible despite never doing better than 1.8 60' before. Believe me, having an ACT HDSS in no way is a reason to believe you actually cut a 1.4 or even a 1.5...
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