hmmmmm

 

Mark, the difference of course was that 4 years ago my car had no saftey equipment weighing it down and it was a 9.9 @ 138 - just bearly sqeezing into the 9's

Now I am running rull NHRA legal with a Gt37 at mid 150 mph range and running consistant 9's. Of course my car is no lightweight, tipping the scales at 3200 with me in it. I like to look at the MPH as a measure of the power - there is a huge gap between 138 mph and 153.

Now that I have finally got the engine making a realiable 800 whp, I must turn to setting up the launch to better the traction off the line. I am sure the car has a better 60' and et in it with this power. I enjoy the process of sorting the car out.

My main purpose in doing this hobby is to have fun racing and learn more about the engine and tuning. If I wanted to fun faster, I could remove the steel doors, steel roof, stock driveshaft, interior, and other items which remain like stock glass and wind up windows etc. Since I am not in competition with or trying to beat anyone else its pointless for me to take those drastic measures. Simply put I am trying to enjoy myself and make the car run well.

I hope I am still out there doing the same thing in 4 more years, we'll see what happens.

Al

 

Back to the schootout review


Mark
Turbotrix

 

Keith, you're welcome for the event, glad you guys came out to race. I do sense a little sarcasm in your posting of the Schootout shirts, so just to let you know you spelled souvenir incorrectly in your post, mistakes happen. Luckily for us though this one is so cool that is will now be the BuSCHur SCHootout every year in the future you can be SCHure that's how we intended to spell it. One other quick note, it's PorSCHe, not Porshe like you spelled it. Cool right? When you really think about it it's just cool to spell things SCH like our name, even Porsche did it. haha

As for speeds on pump gas. The car Tym had there was impressive. I'm happy to say that car runs our double pumper, a custom built header I had on my own RS and our Race FMIC. 103 in the 1/8th is good on pump gas. My car on just 93 ran 107.41 in the 1/8th and 10.02 at 141.12 mph in the 1/4 on 93, just for comparison.

Brandon's car was moving out on the 5.9x in the 1/8th at 124. The ET shows it probably would have been an 8 second run. We ran a 5.97 in the 1/8 at 128.74 on Sunday with the black car, 8.96 at 166.37 mph on the small HTA88. Too bad he didn't get a full pass in, it really sucked.

I'm surprised Brandon's MPH is so low in the 1/8th, is that typical? My RS was running 121.XX in the 1/8 on street tires Sunday and we drove it to and from the track. I'm not being nasty, just asking and adding questions and comments to some of the things you have posted.

Mark,

Your information is incorrect. Tym did NOT build cars when he worked here. He was my sales manager, had nothing to do with building cars. He did the tuning for a few months at the very end of his time here as I didn't know how to use a computer. Also, I spoke with John as I knew he wanted me to tune his car the week of the race but I couldn't get him in. He said he was having idle problems and that is all Tym looked at for him. He actually tuned his car himself. Also, since you are impressed, that car has our 2.3 block, i/c pipes, FMIC and some other things on it. Thanks for being impressed by it. We do our best to not only hold the best events in the country but in building parts.

One other thing I have heard. It's being passed around that the autostart was not used at the track and those rumors are now turning into "Buschur paid off the track to hold TT on the starting line to hold them up". These are both about the most rediculous things I have ever heard. I was at the track today for my meeting with the owner and to pay my bill. I asked about the autostart to verify. It was in fact being used. I then asked for more information on how it works. The Autostart is set up for Pro Stock to activate a 7 second. This means one car Prestages, then the other. Then if neither car fully stages within 7 seconds they both get a red light. If only one stages then he gets the green and the car that did not stage in 7 seconds gets a red. For Bracket racing the standard for the Autostart timer is 10 seconds and is what the track was running on Sunday. Once both cars are staged the tree will go green at varied times. This is to keep someone who is not suppose to use a delay box from using it by activating it from the other competitors stage light. The light can go green up to 1.5 seconds after the last car has staged.

Thanks for reading. Glad you guys made the drive out.

 

Listen man. Anyone that knows me knows I cannot stand to get in the middle of this stuff but I do have to comment on this.

I fully agree that Tym is a great tuner. My evo however was initially tuned by Dave. I then switched to e-85 and the hta35r. Nate Silveri and I tuned the car on the street on the way up to the evo shootout earlier this year.

I stopped by Tyms shop to check it out and kill some time and get the hell out of the sun and enjoy the a/c The car has been a ***** to get started and I did ask him to see if he could get it to start better. He messed with it for 30 minutes and we still could not get it to fire right after it syncs. I raced it with the same very safe tune at 34-35psi that we did earlier in the year.

I do have a wilson ported stock manifold and throttle body on order. And will be taking it to Dave to get tuned, the mustang dyno is great for tuning the driveability. Please lets not make this into anything more than it is.

 

I honestly thought the autostart feature was consistently messed up the entire day (for everybody not just for Turbotrix). I understand the rules about the last car needing to get the 2nd bulb lit no more than 7 seconds after the first car double bulbs. I think where the confusion was happening across the day was the fact that the tree was simply not dropping for a LONG time after both cars were double bulbed. This was causing people to stay on their 2 steps/antilags for way too long. I saw some people in eliminations get on and off their 2 step because of the tree dropping so late.

I'm not doubting the fact that it was "auto". It just seemed to be programmed for an abnormally long drop compared to events past or what I'm used to seeing on TV. Since our car sucked and didn't even make eliminations, we just didn't hit the 2 step until the light turned green.

 

Is Turbotrix running the same final drive gearing?

 

Touche Dave. Good thing there is an edit button on the net....too bad there is no edit button for your t-shirts. BTW, you spelled rediculous wrong. Its Ridiculous.

The fastest MPH Brandon has gone to the 1/8th is 126mph. That was on his 8.80@163.5 pass. Our Orange cars best is 124mph. Maybe its our shift points that do it. I'm really not sure. I know depending on where you shift the 3-4 it can change your 1/8th mile mph. E.T. is alot more important to us that MPH. Yes a high mph means your making alot of power but if you can't put that power to the ground then what good is it.

121mph to the 1/8 is flying...especially on a street driven car. Then again so is 166mph on a HTA88. I just would have figured that such a high mph on such a small and responsive turbo would have netted much lower E.T.'s I'm not making a dig, just curious on what your thoughts are on that.

We were happy to make the drive and are already looking forward to next year.

Keith

 

Shep, Glad to hear you ordered a Wilson. I will make sure you get it ASAP. It was great to meet you, and I know you will be happy with your selection. I will have them send my personal v2 at the end of the week. Thanks, Jim

 

At any rate, Brandon's car and the orange one were both badass cars. I'm still deaf from hearing the two step! When running well, there's no doubt in my mind that they would've blown the doors off the black Buschur car! J/K - I felt compelled to add some fuel to the fire! lol - Both Buschur's and TT"s cars were amazing. First time I've ever seen them person and they're really sick. Great event guys!

 

Keith, yes, good thing for the edit button, neither one of us can spell. haha

The MPH does tell the HP story and I'm with you, I'd rather have a quick ET than killer MPH. Unfortunately it seems we are very good at making rediculous power but not so great at piloting the car down the track. With that said, you know that the more power you make the harder it is to get the car down the track. Kind of a double edge sword.

My RS, ran a 6.17 in the 1/8th BTW.

The black car on the 8.96 at 166 mph run was a pretty poor 60', 1.50.

Glad to see we are both keeping this civil. Thank you.

Thegame, woulda, coulda, shoulda none of those work in the racing world.

 

congrats shep on your great pass's!! I was simply amazed at how stock the car look on the outside and run so fast!! It really looks a lot stockier than most of the cars that run in the stock appearing class!!!! Great job

 

I am in the same boat, its so bizzare that I go from a Gt42 going 154 - 156; go down to the Gt37 making 200 less whp and run the same 153.9 but still in the high 9's. Now that I have the power platform dialed in well, I am going to focus on shift points, launching and suspenion set up to get the car moving harder out opf the hole. Wacthing all the videos from the weekend, its interesting how my car seems very lethargic in 1st gear. I think 1st gear is where I need to focus my attention.

Its a fascinating sport and one that you can always improve in.

Al

 

I believe this is what people use the phrase "power under the curve" for.

 

Interesting...what was the 330ft on the 8.96 pass? On Brandon's 8.80@163 he had a 1.48 60ft but cut a 3.8x 330ft. That gave him 5.8x@126 to the 1/8th mile. I guess it could be cams which might make both cars power curves a bit different...or maybe shift points, who knows. Its too hard to tell as there are way too many variables. Getting the setup dialed in to put the power to the ground does take time though.

The problem with drag racing is that even when your think the car is perfect there is always that little thing that can go wrong and ruin your whole weekend. It helps to have some luck on your side.

Keith