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Old Sep 30, 2008, 08:29 PM
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Tried to race again, rear axle broke.

RyuEvoIX, your safe man. The car is gonna be down for a while and I am gonna install my cams while its apart.

I took the car out 2night goin for broke. 16psi in the nitto drags and a 7200rpm studder box on a nice prepped track. Car moved a few feet under power before the driver side rear axle broke.

My Question is, how strong are these stock axles normally? When do you guys start having problems with them. I don't want to throw another stocker in there just to break it, but I really dun want to pony up the $$ for the driveshaft shop stage 5 axle kit.

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Old Sep 30, 2008, 08:40 PM
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Also, does anybody know if DSS still makes a level 2 axle, I don't see it on the webpage.
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Originally Posted by Fathouse
RyuEvoIX, your safe man. The car is gonna be down for a while and I am gonna install my cams while its apart.

I took the car out 2night goin for broke. 16psi in the nitto drags and a 7200rpm studder box on a nice prepped track. Car moved a few feet under power before the driver side rear axle broke.

My Question is, how strong are these stock axles normally? When do you guys start having problems with them. I don't want to throw another stocker in there just to break it, but I really dun want to pony up the $$ for the driveshaft shop stage 5 axle kit.

Fathouse
Holy crap! You were really going all out to break my record Sorry to hear about the axle. You DEFINITELY were launching at way too high of an rpm for drag radials. Without even being there i'm sure you experienced quite a bit of wheel hop. That's what broke your axle, not the actual power your making during the launch. I say throw another stocker in there and launch at a more reasonable rpm like 6100-6400.
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Originally Posted by Fathouse
RyuEvoIX, your safe man. The car is gonna be down for a while and I am gonna install my cams while its apart.

I took the car out 2night goin for broke. 16psi in the nitto drags and a 7200rpm studder box on a nice prepped track. Car moved a few feet under power before the driver side rear axle broke.

My Question is, how strong are these stock axles normally? When do you guys start having problems with them. I don't want to throw another stocker in there just to break it, but I really dun want to pony up the $$ for the driveshaft shop stage 5 axle kit.

Fathouse
Lets just put it this way... David Buschur's RS that runs 9.1's has stock rear axles.. This is crazy that you broke one
Old Oct 1, 2008, 12:52 AM
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stock axles are pretty strong, only broke 1 myself and that is when I was running drag radials. If you run hoosier they should last longer.
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Its the DR's like a few of us had warned. I am not sure where the discussion took place, but I and a few other had said DR's break more parts than slicks. It is very unfortunate for fathouse as he is a good guy, but hopefully some others can learn from this. People like Mike at AWDMOTORSPORTS and I haven't gotten here overnight with out learning a thing or two. Sorry for the damage fathouse. Just replace them with beefier units from DSS and get on slicks.....

found it page 58-59-etc

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...43#post6029843

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I know about the bias ply tires being softer on drivetrain parts. Another set of wheels, slicks, and small brakes are just not in the budget right now. I was hoping to get by for a while on the nittos.

The car did not feel like it wheel hopped on this pass, It might have and I didn't feel it but I was only under power for 20 feet or so.

It did wheelhop on the pass before, I let out and got back into the throttle, went a 1.79 60' and still went 11.5.

She will be back on the road soon.
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Do you have any pics of the axle and where it broke by chance?

Also what kind of susp are you on?

I too ran DR's and we have another car on them and we both had a litttle wheel hop still. That's why i went to the Hoosier's but would actually like to go to a full slick (MT or Hoosier)

W/ your hp level i'd be more inclined to throw in another stocker and use the DSS money for the brakes, wheels, and DOT'd/slicks.

Or you could always find a spare set of wheels and run the M/T motorcycle slicks.
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So even with the BFG drag radials you will still get wheelhop?
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So even with the BFG drag radials you will still get wheelhop?
Yes even though the compound on the bfg's is better it's the stiffness in the sidewall that does it along with the amount of sidewall as well.
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I'm running BFG's on mine and all it took was a little wheel hop and SNAP.. I broke my first axle last sunday.. I got another stock one in there for now..

DSS axles are the way to go!! I'm swapping to those and the carbonetic rear diff this winter..

Mark
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Yes radials do that, the more power you make the worse it gets. It also has alot to do with how much you can slip the clutch on the launch.

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Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune
Yes radials do that, the more power you make the worse it gets. It also has alot to do with how much you can slip the clutch on the launch.

Sean

I'll pass on the drag radials and drag racing. It's not worth all the driveline parts breakage.
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Mr House ,

As you know, wheel hop kills axles as well as diffs, t-cases, tranny's, etc. If you upgrade the axles and continue to get wheel hop then its going to break your t-case, rear diff, or trans next. Another stocker will be fine as long as it doesn't hop anymore. Like Sean said, it also has to do with your clutch and the ability to slip it. We finally broke an axle earlier this year and have since switched to a set from the driveshaft shop. Ours are not the stage 5's. They have new inner and outer CV's but use the stock hubs.


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