View Poll Results: Who do you think will win?
Dynoflash - Drag Evo
71
60.17%
Mike1023 - Street Monster
47
39.83%
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DynoFlash Al - Drag Evo VS Mike1023 - Street Monster
Al, if you think this thread is so stupid lets make the stakes a little higher now. and you think this is going to be so point less.
Ill throw race gas in my car tune it 100% kill mode! just like most-wanted and 9sec9! I will come to the track with slicks!
No turning back Al, we locked it up on the phone and you told me you would tell me what date. I agreed to everything with you.
Well even have a track rental date so we don't have to wait in line, not a big crowd well have it to are self.
And please everyone in this thread lets not bash one and other. lets keep this thread friendly.
Al, remember we are not running ET we running to the line. Just like in a street race.
Ill throw race gas in my car tune it 100% kill mode! just like most-wanted and 9sec9! I will come to the track with slicks!
No turning back Al, we locked it up on the phone and you told me you would tell me what date. I agreed to everything with you.
Well even have a track rental date so we don't have to wait in line, not a big crowd well have it to are self.
And please everyone in this thread lets not bash one and other. lets keep this thread friendly.
Al, remember we are not running ET we running to the line. Just like in a street race.
Race gas and slicks is not going to drop a full second off your time with your current setup. Hate to be the nay sayer but I'm a realist.
My opinion-
As both cars sit right now, Mike can not win unless Al breaks something. If I was Al I would think its pointless amd a complete waste of time to race as well. But on the other hand, we could look at these facts : Most Wanted, the dude from PR and 9sec9 all went mid 9s on a FP red. How did they do it ? Light weight race cars. Now let me refresh your memory. Mike was one of the first people on here to gut his evo and got killed for it by everyone. His car was close to to those other race cars in weight. Now lets look at it another way. Mike Ran 10.9 on pump gas and low boost on a car that wasnt much less than full weight on a fp red. He has also cut a insane 60ft recently on some winter tires so we know he can drive.
Last time I check Al ran like 9.6-9.8 or something like that on his current turbo.
Now if we add more boost, c16 , slicks and maybe some weight reduction to Mike's car.
Do we have a fair race now ? Does Mike have a legit shot to win? Yup. I think we do. When the pressure is on ina big race, this guy always rises to the top. My money is on Mike.....
Bench racing at its best.
As both cars sit right now, Mike can not win unless Al breaks something. If I was Al I would think its pointless amd a complete waste of time to race as well. But on the other hand, we could look at these facts : Most Wanted, the dude from PR and 9sec9 all went mid 9s on a FP red. How did they do it ? Light weight race cars. Now let me refresh your memory. Mike was one of the first people on here to gut his evo and got killed for it by everyone. His car was close to to those other race cars in weight. Now lets look at it another way. Mike Ran 10.9 on pump gas and low boost on a car that wasnt much less than full weight on a fp red. He has also cut a insane 60ft recently on some winter tires so we know he can drive.
Last time I check Al ran like 9.6-9.8 or something like that on his current turbo.
Now if we add more boost, c16 , slicks and maybe some weight reduction to Mike's car.
Do we have a fair race now ? Does Mike have a legit shot to win? Yup. I think we do. When the pressure is on ina big race, this guy always rises to the top. My money is on Mike.....
Bench racing at its best.
racing "street race" style will be the main factor in this race. alot of ppl usually arent used to timing the tree just perfect to get a good R/T, most ppl just sit at the light and wait till there ready and then make there run. it will def be interesting to watch either way.
Mike is an alright guy but this is a stupid thread
His car was evenly matched against one of our customers with a single walbro running only 24 - 25 psi on pump and meth with a 62/62 turbo.
With so many great 62/62 and HTA86 customers like Suman and others who are out and about driving around with 700 plus whp having a fast Evo these days is no big accomplishment technologically.
To me - it was a important milestone when I was the first Evo to run 11's way back in '03 and when I was the first to go 9's on a Gt35 and the first to go 9's without NOS back in '05. I was the quickest and fastest Evo 8 for nearly two years back in the formative days.
These days, it does not take much effort to put together a 9 second street going Evo - look at all the long list of Buschur Racing customers who went 9's last season and drove to and from the track.
My Evo is kind of a useless car to me now in many ways - kind of like a nostalgia machine. Full bodied, all glass - 3200 lbs with driver - full NHRA saftey gear - kind of set up for a non existant race class for a race series that no longer exists. I take it out on the road every so often to remind me what a really fast car can do. I go to test and tunes and run 9 second passes every once in a while to remind me how long 4th gear can be after a really fast 1st, 2nd and 3rd and what 155 mph can feel like in a econo box jap car.
Seriously, this is a stupid thread. If my car does not break I will destroy Mike's car significantly. Not very sporting.
In my world, the only person I am racing is myself. My quest is to learn more about what works, what does not work and to fufill my passion for cars and tuning turbo motors.
Its obvious that there are a lot of envious and jealous individuals who spend a lot of time worrying about what others are doing, I am not one of them.
Al
His car was evenly matched against one of our customers with a single walbro running only 24 - 25 psi on pump and meth with a 62/62 turbo.
With so many great 62/62 and HTA86 customers like Suman and others who are out and about driving around with 700 plus whp having a fast Evo these days is no big accomplishment technologically.
To me - it was a important milestone when I was the first Evo to run 11's way back in '03 and when I was the first to go 9's on a Gt35 and the first to go 9's without NOS back in '05. I was the quickest and fastest Evo 8 for nearly two years back in the formative days.
These days, it does not take much effort to put together a 9 second street going Evo - look at all the long list of Buschur Racing customers who went 9's last season and drove to and from the track.
My Evo is kind of a useless car to me now in many ways - kind of like a nostalgia machine. Full bodied, all glass - 3200 lbs with driver - full NHRA saftey gear - kind of set up for a non existant race class for a race series that no longer exists. I take it out on the road every so often to remind me what a really fast car can do. I go to test and tunes and run 9 second passes every once in a while to remind me how long 4th gear can be after a really fast 1st, 2nd and 3rd and what 155 mph can feel like in a econo box jap car.
Seriously, this is a stupid thread. If my car does not break I will destroy Mike's car significantly. Not very sporting.
In my world, the only person I am racing is myself. My quest is to learn more about what works, what does not work and to fufill my passion for cars and tuning turbo motors.
Its obvious that there are a lot of envious and jealous individuals who spend a lot of time worrying about what others are doing, I am not one of them.
Al
Too many good points to single out just one.
I think the past two years were great indicaters of everyone finally having enough money to make there cars run fast. So many people paid off their viii's and ix's or bought used ones that spending $$$ to make power became easy. Also, with so many great parts out there seeing huge horespower isn't out of reach anymore.
The crazy thing is from a dig a good driver is a good driver if the car holds up. No doubt about it. But on the highway, at a 30mph role, my guess is there are 100 plus evos in this country that would walk a 500/600 whp evo. (Im only mentioning racing from a role because it take's the guess work out of who will get off the line the quickest)
If money is the key indicator to having braging rights (to make big enough power) than Mike doesn't have enough.....because there are dozens of evo's out there who have shown that money is no object....and that has created some crazy street monsters in New England and all over.
Al, if you think this thread is so stupid lets make the stakes a little higher now. and you think this is going to be so point less.
Ill throw race gas in my car tune it 100% kill mode! just like most-wanted and 9sec9! I will come to the track with slicks!
No turning back Al, we locked it up on the phone and you told me you would tell me what date. I agreed to everything with you.
Well even have a track rental date so we don't have to wait in line, not a big crowd well have it to are self.
And please everyone in this thread lets not bash one and other. lets keep this thread friendly.
Al, remember we are not running ET we running to the line. Just like in a street race.
Ill throw race gas in my car tune it 100% kill mode! just like most-wanted and 9sec9! I will come to the track with slicks!
No turning back Al, we locked it up on the phone and you told me you would tell me what date. I agreed to everything with you.
Well even have a track rental date so we don't have to wait in line, not a big crowd well have it to are self.
And please everyone in this thread lets not bash one and other. lets keep this thread friendly.
Al, remember we are not running ET we running to the line. Just like in a street race.
Seriously you need to get a life
Al
You asre assuming that I am going to make the effort to waste ,my time to pursue this nonsense
I dont feel like I have anything to prove to Mike or anyone else.
If you follow the engine, power train section I have been busy working on cylinder head testing and other matters, I really am a busy guy and dont have time to waste on moronic and dynsfunctional activities
If you look on our Dyno Flash You Tube Channel you will find several races with this Mike guy - nothing special going on there
Al
I dont feel like I have anything to prove to Mike or anyone else.
If you follow the engine, power train section I have been busy working on cylinder head testing and other matters, I really am a busy guy and dont have time to waste on moronic and dynsfunctional activities
If you look on our Dyno Flash You Tube Channel you will find several races with this Mike guy - nothing special going on there
Al
racing "street race" style will be the main factor in this race. alot of ppl usually arent used to timing the tree just perfect to get a good R/T, most ppl just sit at the light and wait till there ready and then make there run. it will def be interesting to watch either way.
Well real drag racing is all about the R/T. do you see the pros on tv sit there and go when they are ready. its when the light turn greens and who ever hit to the finish line wins. this is a head up race! Not lets test and tune are cars and see what ET we get and high five.
Last edited by RyuEvoIX; Apr 3, 2009 at 08:47 AM.
Again Al, lets keep this thread to a non bashing one and other and turn into trash.
PS. I have a life and its racing BRO!
Ok Al,
You say you are testing all these parts, you have to some time test them at the track. Anyone can make a lot of power on dyno and go no where on the 1/4mile.
Do what BR does! they test parts on dyno and then they hit the track to prove it!
And i don't get why you think this is a waste of time.
I'll give you three options since you already locked it up with me on the phone.
1: Ill go to the track and if i run a 9sec pass on fp red you run me.
2: I'll put on HTA style turbo and ill keep it on pump gas for you when we line up at track.
3: Come to the track rental after done testing your heads. and run me how my car is currently posted in the 1st post.
And great Al, send everyone to your youtube channel which is miss leading. And besides the fact who cares about that, this is now that was then. We are in 2009 not living 10years ago. People want to see new matches new thing new line ups.
I'm Waiting
PS. I have a life and its racing BRO!
You asre assuming that I am going to make the effort to waste ,my time to pursue this nonsense
I dont feel like I have anything to prove to Mike or anyone else.
If you follow the engine, power train section I have been busy working on cylinder head testing and other matters, I really am a busy guy and dont have time to waste on moronic and dynsfunctional activities
If you look on our Dyno Flash You Tube Channel you will find several races with this Mike guy - nothing special going on there
Al
I dont feel like I have anything to prove to Mike or anyone else.
If you follow the engine, power train section I have been busy working on cylinder head testing and other matters, I really am a busy guy and dont have time to waste on moronic and dynsfunctional activities
If you look on our Dyno Flash You Tube Channel you will find several races with this Mike guy - nothing special going on there
Al
You say you are testing all these parts, you have to some time test them at the track. Anyone can make a lot of power on dyno and go no where on the 1/4mile.
Do what BR does! they test parts on dyno and then they hit the track to prove it!
And i don't get why you think this is a waste of time.
I'll give you three options since you already locked it up with me on the phone.
1: Ill go to the track and if i run a 9sec pass on fp red you run me.
2: I'll put on HTA style turbo and ill keep it on pump gas for you when we line up at track.
3: Come to the track rental after done testing your heads. and run me how my car is currently posted in the 1st post.
And great Al, send everyone to your youtube channel which is miss leading. And besides the fact who cares about that, this is now that was then. We are in 2009 not living 10years ago. People want to see new matches new thing new line ups.
I'm Waiting
Last edited by mike1023; Apr 3, 2009 at 09:04 AM.
ET is a reflection of the cars potential. To think you can make over 1.5 seconds difference with race gas, slicks, and rt is egotistical and ignorant. This is obviously the fastest car you have owned thus far and is very respectable for what it is, but to proclaim publicly in this manner that you think you have an honest shot at beating a mid 9 second car in a true race without mechanical failure is asinine.
Did you all think curt brown was every going to do what he did? Well he did!
how about BR did you think david would go 9s on pump? well he did!
What about most-wanted and 9sec9 ever think they would go mid 9s on fp red? well they both did also.
seem to me a lot of people have done thing people would never think could happen!
no one thought i would of went low 11s on pump with a stock evo8 turbo! well guess what i did too! there is no limits to what anyone can do with the right tools!
I really do think i have a chance.
Did you all think curt brown was every going to do what he did? Well he did!
how about BR did you think david would go 9s on pump? well he did!
What about most-wanted and 9sec9 ever think they would go mid 9s on fp red? well they both did also.
seem to me a lot of people have done thing people would never think could happen!
no one thought i would of went low 11s on pump with a stock evo8 turbo! well guess what i did too! there is no limits to what anyone can do with the right tools!
Did you all think curt brown was every going to do what he did? Well he did!
how about BR did you think david would go 9s on pump? well he did!
What about most-wanted and 9sec9 ever think they would go mid 9s on fp red? well they both did also.
seem to me a lot of people have done thing people would never think could happen!
no one thought i would of went low 11s on pump with a stock evo8 turbo! well guess what i did too! there is no limits to what anyone can do with the right tools!
You have lost track of what you created the thread about...
Did we think my RS would run 8's in street trim NO we didnt and it wasnt even a goal.. Thats not what we are discussing so why you brought in CB, Brian or 9sec9 i have no idea.. your not asking if we think 1 day you could run 9.3 on an FP red.. I would say sure its possible 1 day it can happen.. someone will run 9's on a stock turbo 1 day maybe..
Is it possible that 1 day you may beat AL?? yes its possible 1 day you may beat me, ams, buschur or anyone you set your goals for..
You asked if your car in its current state is capable of beating al even on race gas and the answer 1 more time is , ONLY IF HE BREAKS OR MISSES 2 GEARS..
If your looking for the community of people to swing on your nuts because you want to race 1 of the top dogs in the last 5 years then create another thread asking " Will you guys all be my friends if I can beat Big Al"... seems pretty clear what the thread is turning into.. IMO its lame.. I would never in my life create a thread saying " My Evo Race car is almost built, Do you think i can beat AMS race car ".. lame
Btw.. it appears as if you ran out of people to come and vote for you so the Poll is ending up as lopsided as the race will be..
Mike
Last edited by AWD Motorsports; Apr 3, 2009 at 09:13 AM.
So are you guys racing? yes or no? come on it just takes a day 
And to be fair the youtube videos don't prove anything, Al wasn't driving, and
George
likes to jump on everybody 
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Just race and end this crap
And to be fair the youtube videos don't prove anything, Al wasn't driving, and
George
likes to jump on everybody .Just race and end this crap
You have lost track of what you created the thread about...
Did we think my RS would run 8's in street trim NO we didnt and it wasnt even a goal.. Thats not what we are discussing so why you brought in CB, Brian or 9sec9 i have no idea.. your not asking if we think 1 day you could run 9.3 on an FP red.. I would say sure its possible 1 day it can happen.. someone will run 9's on a stock turbo 1 day maybe..
Is it possible that 1 day you may beat AL?? yes its possible 1 day you may beat me, ams, buschur or anyone you set your goals for..
You asked if your car in its current state is capable of beating al even on race gas and the answer 1 more time is , ONLY IF HE BREAKS OR MISSES 2 GEARS..
If your looking for the community of people to swing on your nuts because you want to race 1 of the top dogs in the last 5 years then create another thread asking " Will you guys all be my friends if I can beat Big Al"... seems pretty clear what the thread is turning into.. IMO its lame.. I would never in my life create a thread saying " My Evo Race car is almost built, Do you think i can beat AMS race car ".. lame
Btw.. it appears as if you ran out of people to come and vote for you so the Poll is ending up as lopsided as the race will be..
Mike
Did we think my RS would run 8's in street trim NO we didnt and it wasnt even a goal.. Thats not what we are discussing so why you brought in CB, Brian or 9sec9 i have no idea.. your not asking if we think 1 day you could run 9.3 on an FP red.. I would say sure its possible 1 day it can happen.. someone will run 9's on a stock turbo 1 day maybe..
Is it possible that 1 day you may beat AL?? yes its possible 1 day you may beat me, ams, buschur or anyone you set your goals for..
You asked if your car in its current state is capable of beating al even on race gas and the answer 1 more time is , ONLY IF HE BREAKS OR MISSES 2 GEARS..
If your looking for the community of people to swing on your nuts because you want to race 1 of the top dogs in the last 5 years then create another thread asking " Will you guys all be my friends if I can beat Big Al"... seems pretty clear what the thread is turning into.. IMO its lame.. I would never in my life create a thread saying " My Evo Race car is almost built, Do you think i can beat AMS race car ".. lame
Btw.. it appears as if you ran out of people to come and vote for you so the Poll is ending up as lopsided as the race will be..
Mike
and i was showing that i do have a chance dont down a guy who does not have years of racing and events and tuning and customers.
and the point of this thread was stating that Al did call me in the begin of the week and we did lock it up on the phone. and i made this thread to share to the community becasue i know how Al love the market of videoing and sharing his life of racing and cars.
and i made the poll for more of a fun beating theme and for you guys to share your thought not bash me or al.
And again this is the point of racing! your car can have all the power in the world but if you cant drive it its worthless.
Last edited by mike1023; Apr 3, 2009 at 09:31 AM.
My opinion-
As both cars sit right now, Mike can not win unless Al breaks something. If I was Al I would think its pointless amd a complete waste of time to race as well. But on the other hand, we could look at these facts : Most Wanted, the dude from PR and 9sec9 all went mid 9s on a FP red. How did they do it ? Light weight race cars. Now let me refresh your memory. Mike was one of the first people on here to gut his evo and got killed for it by everyone. His car was close to to those other race cars in weight. Now lets look at it another way. Mike Ran 10.9 on pump gas and low boost on a car that wasnt much less than full weight on a fp red. He has also cut a insane 60ft recently on some winter tires so we know he can drive.
Last time I check Al ran like 9.6-9.8 or something like that on his current turbo.
Now if we add more boost, c16 , slicks and maybe some weight reduction to Mike's car.
Do we have a fair race now ? Does Mike have a legit shot to win? Yup. I think we do. When the pressure is on ina big race, this guy always rises to the top. My money is on Mike.....
Bench racing at its best.
As both cars sit right now, Mike can not win unless Al breaks something. If I was Al I would think its pointless amd a complete waste of time to race as well. But on the other hand, we could look at these facts : Most Wanted, the dude from PR and 9sec9 all went mid 9s on a FP red. How did they do it ? Light weight race cars. Now let me refresh your memory. Mike was one of the first people on here to gut his evo and got killed for it by everyone. His car was close to to those other race cars in weight. Now lets look at it another way. Mike Ran 10.9 on pump gas and low boost on a car that wasnt much less than full weight on a fp red. He has also cut a insane 60ft recently on some winter tires so we know he can drive.
Last time I check Al ran like 9.6-9.8 or something like that on his current turbo.
Now if we add more boost, c16 , slicks and maybe some weight reduction to Mike's car.
Do we have a fair race now ? Does Mike have a legit shot to win? Yup. I think we do. When the pressure is on ina big race, this guy always rises to the top. My money is on Mike.....
Bench racing at its best.