Hey, you are doing fine. You would be trapping around 120 mph. Don't let the dyno numbers fool you. You have a good sixty foot and trap speed for that et which means you can drive. Once you get the NLTS, you'll be doing better. I'm suprised scott did not put it on there for you...
As for Ryu's car he was running slicks and that was a prepped car for racing... I doubt your two lightweight mods could compare to his prepped car. I don't know why TTP is trying to argue with you. It is probably to defend their high reading dyno.
If you have a rim/tire setup that is heavier than stock, then that is a big difference. That is a lot of rotational weight... Don't be discouraged. For what it's worth I ran 7.6@ 92 and 11.8 @ 118 or 119 I forgot. With your 60' you would be mid 11s at least probably better.

Big dyno numbers spread the word about the tuning service. When people head to the track and get disappointed, that is when the truth comes out... Some dynos can be manipulated. Based on your slip, nothing is wrong with your driving. I have to shift to 4th in the eight. I don't know why people say they never ran the 1/8th. It is the same thing when you run the quarter. Just look at the 1/8th times. If you are going say 92mph and the rpm you shift at in third is say 85mph then it is obvious that you shifted to 4th during the 1/8th...... lol

 

^ 100 % True.

 

My car is "prepped for racing"? Aside from me running slicks my car is no more prepped then the next guy. My race weight without me in the car is around 3,050 lbs. Buschurs Bad Bish has been stated to weigh in at 2,9xx lbs and that is classified as a 100% street car. Why is my car considered anything different?

It would seem to me since I am the exception to the insults you guys continue to make about TTP now your simply making excuses as to why I don't fit in your category of bs dyno numbers.

I would also like to state for the record when I made 432whp stock turbo on the dyno with only Nitto 555R's I was running 11.0's at just under 124mph. So if anything the slicks did not attribute to gaining any significant mph, only an increase of about 0.8mph.

 

Ok so if your theory is correct, and TTP's dyno is a low reading one, then how can you explain outrageous claims for numbers like 403 whp on 93 octane on the stock turbo, and your 590 whp on the red, which if you add the difference between the MD and dynojet would put you as the fastest FP red car and that stock turbo at 430 whp ON PUMP GAS. I really mean it Ryu, im not bashing hardcore here, I just want a truthfull honest answer for once. My questions always get avoided when this issue is brought up. We need to put this to rest with the truth.

 

I'm sorry you feel that way Ryu but many people feel the same. I don't understand why they would get defensive anyway. I consistantly see numbers coming from there that are anywhere from 30-50hp more than other dynos with the same setup. When it comes down to it you could list the mods on an evo and pretty much guess within 2mph what the car is gonna trap with a good tune. There will always be exceptions but for the most part guys are trapping what they should be but their dyno numbers don't match the E.T. it's really simple math. Now I'm not here to argue with you at all, just making a simple observation. Your car is one of the strongest cars out there and your driving is exceptionally good.

 

The first real problem with this argument is YOUR sides outrageous claims by using Buschurs dyno as the end all be all comparison for Mustang Dyno's. Buschur has one of the lowest reading Mustang Dyno's in the country and should not by any reasonable means be used as a benchmark for Mustang Dynos.

I also like how you represent the "outrageous claims for numbers like 403whp on 93oct on the stock turbo" as if it is a common occurrence when it happened only one time with one car. Having a conversation such as this with someone like you is pointless as no matter what is presented to you your mind and opinion is already set to continue about this subject as you have been.

Sorry everyone's Mustang Dyno isn't a heartbreaker like Buschur's is. Maybe one day you will get over it and actually focus on building up your own car instead of trying to tear down everyone else's builds.

 

I didn't see that at all....maybe I'm just tired from work.

 

No where did I refer to Buschurs dyno. The critical thinking that goes into this math isnt hard Ryu. It is said that his dyno reads 7-9 percent lower then a dynojet. Ok if that is true, and that is said by the owner himself, then that would be 430 whp on a standard dynojet, correct? That will NEVER happen man, it is just not possible, you know that as well. And no where am I tearing down someones build im in here saying great driving and times, but his TRAPS do not match up to his dyno numbers.

So again I ask you, do you really believe the stuff that is being spit from that dyno? Or are you just trying to defend your friend Scott in every way, shape, and form? Are the highest hp fp red car then Ryu? These claims, wether being said or not, are what is being interperted.

And one final thing, if everything that was stated by you is true, then how can you trap so much more hten him with 50 whp less? I just want TRUTHFUL answers, not defensive ones. I am not bashing you, just asking the questions that have needed to be answered since day one.

 

Im not going to get into this much other than that there is NO EVO IN THIS COUNTRY that will make 440whp on stock turbo on 93 pump on MY DYNOJET or any dynojet no matter what mods it has.. 9% of 440whp is 400hp.. even 430hp based on 7% will NEVER EVER happen legitimately..

 

There are multiple things that affect trap speeds aside from peak whp numbers. One major factor is wind direction, temperature and humidity. Removing the wing netted me an extra mph from the reduction in down force, the addition of an exhaust cam gear set to -2deg along with a retune added 1mph, the slicks aided in approx 0.8-1mph, and I NLTS my car and complete every shift in approx. 0.15 of a second which is much quicker then the average shift to my understanding in turn gives me more time accelerating during a track run. I hit my exact target shift point in every gear as well which maximizes the use of my powerband. The Evo IX 1st gear is another advantage I have as well. There are no secrets to my car, I have documented everything that I have done on my car on this forum in which anyone can replicate. The driving however may be a little bit more challenging to duplicate.

 

His dyno is a benchmark just like any other MD dyno that is factory calibrated by MD themselves. I can name a few vendors on here that read very very similar to Buschur's. There MD's are not calibrated too please a customer but as a tuning tool. TTP's infact reads high and it is obvious. Everyone across the country agrees, not just competitive shops but enthusiast that is not affiliated by a particular shop.

Can you tell me what correction factor did TTP use to make 440whp on a stock 8 turbo?

As for "everyone's Mustang Dyno isn't a heartbreaker like Buschur's" if it was factory calibrated IT WOULD.

 

How about you guys stop thread jacking. If you guys want to argue over dynos and whos is lower reading or any of that other ****....just make your own thread. There is no need to jump in every thread that has a TTP or any other vendor, for that matter, car in it and **** it up. all dynos in the world are just reference tools. NONE will read exactly the same. I have built both mustang and dynojet dynos. Not one ever read the same each time my car was put on it.

 

All of this BS about our Dyno this and our dyno that just makes this forum a soap opera. If I am not mistaken a dyno was a tuning tool. Every Dyno Read differently so what is to say that one is better than the other? You guys have to focus on the gains that a tune or the mod does to the car and be happy.

 

Ctrl X much?

 

Your mods include an evo9 tranny with evo 8 3/4th gear(longer 1st gear), no bumper beams in the front or rear (according to one of your posts), lightweight drive shaft, front pass and rear seats removed, carbon trunk, and freaking MOTORCYCLE SLICKS!!! This may not be a "race prepped" car in your opinion, but don't mislead everyone and compare your numbers to this original poster. It is not even a fair comparison. You guys are insinuating that it is the original posters fault @ driving and you have a lower awhp car going faster. Be fair about it. A car on MOTORCYCLE slicks vs. a summer tire car. The rotational weight loss, in my opinion, is significant. Removing bumper beams and all putting on m/t slicks is being prepared for racing...