1 , push the break, and use the heel to push the gas, then how much rpm should be apply???
2 when I do the heel and toe, eg, 4th reduce to 3rd gear, or 3rd to 2nd, the car always shock , and I think this may broken my transmission. what is the "right feeling "when reduce the gear!
thanx guys

 

you have to match the rpm before engaging the clutch. i would practice just that before throwing the brakes in the process. for example, observe the rpm at 40mph for 4th and 3rd gear. let's say your rpm at 40mph in 4th is 3000 and in 3rd 4000. now practice downshifting without braking and work on it until it is a smooth transition. get on a long straight (and save) road and just cruise at 40mph in 4th gear. then disengage the clutch, blip the throttle up to 4000 rpm and keep it there. finally reengage the clutch. you should notice less jolting in the drivetrain off the bat. practice it a lot, especially the modulation of your right foot. also try it at different speeds and get to know the speed/revs for each gear. then you can add braking in the mix.

 

1. You don't have to use your heel. The pedals are close enough you can hit the brake with the ball of your foot and the gas with the right side of your foot.

2. You should get enough RPM to match the speed your are going. If you are doing 40 in third and the engine is turning 2500 RPM, and your are downshifting into second and it takes 3500 rpm in second to do forty that is about where you want to rev the engine to. You will loose some speed cause you are braking when doing this so that isn't completly accurate but you get the idea.
It should be smooth there should be no "shock." The shock is probably from to much or not enough gas.

 

oops i forgot to include an important step.. cruise at 40mph in 4th, disengage clutch, blip throttle up to 4000 rpm, shift into 3rd, then re-engage clutch.

 

Its about 2500 Rpm to 3300 RPM if I remember it correctly per gear. If you skip 2 gears you rev more. Just see how much the RPM drops when you upshift to figure it out.

once you're use to doing it, you don't even have to look at the RPM TEch. you'll just feel it.

You're shocking it because it's not rev matched or you're letting the clutch out too fast. Just easy it out, but do it fast, but don't let it out too fast. lol

 

thanx guys! I am practicing!!
do you guys feel it is faster enter the corner when use this?

 

Heel/toe is not to be taken literally. All you are doing is rolling your foot at the ankle. Your heel isn't touching the pedals; just use the outer edges of the top (toe end) of your foot.

 

I usually use the side of my foot and it does the job well.

When you're going fast and use toe and heel, it's faster because you're going very smooth through a corner and after the turn, you're in the right gear to burn it up!

No bog with tow and heel is a plus.

 

I practice alot, and yes, I feel the 2nd gear is much more difficult. so I tried another way, for eg, I drive 40km/h in 3rd gear, and the rev is 1500, and then I do not use the heel and toe, I just push the gas and make the rev to 2500 and downshifting to 2nd, release the gas. then I can still feel the shock(jerk). or it is just like we drive to 40 or 50 in 2nd gear and release the gas, it will jerk. so if we do the heel and toe in 2nd gear, it will more difficult!! do you guys have some experiance to deel with this?

 

Practice on the straights with no traffic around. Foot position is key, I put the ball of my foot half way on the brake pedal, some do it differently, be careful your foot doesn't slip off. From whatever gear you are in start braking, when you see the revs drop out the power band for your car, around 2000rpm, its time. Now, depress the clutch, as it hits the floor grab the shift knob and pull out of gear, as you do this roll you foot towards the throttle and tap it quick while down shifting. As you engage the shifter into the next gear, let out the clutch quickly. If you feather the clutch at the engagement you will be cheating, but it is hard not to do this at first. After some practice you will be able to let it out very quickly. When you do this right the car will not jerk/rev/bog at all. Timing is key and it will take a while before you can do this without thinking, just like when you first learned to start in first gear. Also try going over the motions while parked with the engine off. Once you have it down on the straights then try it as you approach a sharp right hand turn, you will be amazed at the control you have and you have power on demand. Watch out in heavy traffic, because you will find you come up on other cars quickly with a lot of speed as they are probably not heel-toeing through turns. Google the web for other hints. Sorry for the long post, enjoy!

 

I Try Hell toe Braking every chance I get.. You have to find the foot position that works for you.I am still experimenting with a foot position as I havent found one yet that I like and is easy for me to use(I am 5'2,a chick and wear a size 6 shoe if that gives you any idea).I tryed rolling the edge of my foot to the gas in turns and that seems to be going pretty well for me most of the time.However I find also that placing the ball of my foot as clost to the top of the gas pedal and turning my heel to the brakes works even better and I go thru turns alot smoother and with ease than before when I wasnt learning to do it.

My Advice for you is just to find what works for you position wise and then keeep practicing on raods less traveled by other cars and or People walking.. And Do a search on the web for more help and hints.Good luck and have fun.

 

He's got the right idea-no heel needed to do this in an EVO. Regardless of RPM in current gear when downshifting, simply blip the throttle w/ the right side of your right foot as you are braking and simultaneously have the clutch engaged with your left foot. If you've been driving a MT for any length of time, instinct will tell you when it's time to let out the clutch and get back on the gas.

Practice runs at AutoX is the best place to practice. I learned while driving SLOWLY through my neighborhood to ensure that I didn't kill anyone or scatter the transaxle.

Go forth and grind!

 

If double clutch heel and toe is too hard, try single clutch heel and toe to practice.

Single cltuch heel and toe is when you brake, you push in the clutch, let it pushed in while you use the side of your foot to rev match then let out the clutch.

I do this when I get lazy. You could do it slowly, it'll help.

 

can anyone here explain how to do heel toe on twin or triple clutch?

 

Am doing it with a twin plate clutch. Same process.

It is still about rev matching. Personally, I don't really pay a lot of attention to the exact rpm. I just mash the gas with the ball of my foot while still braking and then release the clutch.