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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Question E-Brake to initiate drift.

Anyone tried using the E-brake to start a drift and then use the acclerator to hold on to the slide?

I know the WRX doesn't like E-brake turns, because of the way its AWD is set up using the differentials and driveshaft keeping the rear wheels and front wheels at the same speeds. This is a big No-No with the Subaru.

Thought the Evo might be the same as the WRX, but never have tried using the E-brake in the Evo.

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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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I think that will work. When I was at RMR a while ago, they showed me a little piece that replaces the E-brake button. Basically, you pull up on the E-brake and then let it drop. No messing with the button...
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Don't do it. It will mess up your center differential.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Oh, I have no doubt that I could pull up on the handle, but how does the Evo's AWD drivetrain react to a sudden rear wheel stop (or slowdown) while the front wheels are still rolling?
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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i dont think the evo likes it.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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heh...Just drop two gears and crack the throttle with the wheel turned...I did that today!
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Haha somebody post up the link to that video of the "street king" evo vs. RSX. At the end it looks like hes doing an e-brake slide.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 04:11 AM
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Alas, there are drifts and there is "Drifting".

Handbrake turns are a standard technique in rallies (in AWD). A brief application of the handbrake can initiate oversteer to assist turn-in on tight hairpins. (In RWD days, we just used power oversteer.)

I never trusted the handbrake cable or center diff to stand up to trying this on pavement, but I used this technique on the Celica AllTrac in snow without ill effects. I haven't tried it on the EVO, of course, because it was only built in May, so it hasn't seen snow yet. (But if the road crews keep up at this rate, the roads in MA will soon all be soft gravel. )

"Drifting", I hear, is a new goofball sport where kids try to run the car sideways for show.

Sort of like autocross in the early '70s, where we gave Stingray 'Vettes a consolation prize for "most spectacular spin-out".
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 04:53 AM
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Originally posted by DGS
"Drifting", I hear, is a new goofball sport where kids try to run the car sideways for show.
It's not as "goofball" as you think. Yeah, drifting is useless on a large track, but on narrow roads it seems to make sense. Never done it myself... drive a Civic currently so can't

Too bad you're not in So. Cal. because there's a big drifting event in Irwindale on August 31. Check www.d1gp.com for info.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 05:06 AM
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I used to get my Fiat 124 sideways often in SCCA club rallys back in the '70s. In the old RWD (gravel) rally days, we used to say, "If you're pointed where you're headed, then you're going too slow."

But there's a difference between using oversteer rotations (left foot braking / handbrake turns / power oversteer (depending on driven wheels)) and sliding the car sideways just to show off.

One is a racing techinque, the other is just showbiz. <ducking>
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 05:25 AM
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Well, the drifting competitions are more than just sliding sideways. They usually have a track set up for you to navigate using drifting techniques. But, they are not timed (from what I know). There are judges to rate you.

I'm on the fence as to whether or not these same techniques could be used in a race. They always race solo (except for the showoff events where they line up 5 cars in a row that are all going sideways around a curve). All I can say is that it looks VERY impressive. At the very least, you could say that with that much control over a car, you're a damn good driver.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by makku
At the very least, you could say that with that much control over a car, you're a damn good driver.
Alternatively, you could say that if you aren't in control of both ends of the car, then you're not driving, you're just along for the ride.

Which is one reason I'd never own a FWD.

"It's 11 o'clock. Do you know where your corners are?"
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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i still have my 98 gsx and i go drifting w/ my friends all the time and i use my e brake to start the drift and i havent had any troubles yet..... havent tried it w/ the 7gsr yet though........ that thing pretty much drifts itself if you know how to dirve it.
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Old Aug 20, 2003 | 12:01 AM
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I dont have an awd but when i slide/ drift my oz i have to be carefull to keep the back wheels moving close to the speed of the front ones if they get too far apart the computer shuts down my throttle.
what a good way to lose control...
sorry if its a bit ot.
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