Any automatic techniques?
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keep the car in neutral and the rpms hovering at 1000-2500 till you gun the gas and yank the shifter all the way into 1st gear
umm when you shift in auto, do you let off the gas completely when shifiting? or do you just ease up on it? And could someone tell me exactly how to power shift in auto, like do i go to 2nd, 1st, drive..............
Originally posted by 97 gp gt
AHHHH!!! NO NEUTRAL DUMPS!!! that's definitely how you'll drop your tranny on the road... trust me, i know people who have done just that...
...BTW, power shifting (going 1-2-3-D) really isn't needed if you can drive an automatic well, the only time you need the lower gears are if you are towing something and are going up and down hills and need the torque.
AHHHH!!! NO NEUTRAL DUMPS!!! that's definitely how you'll drop your tranny on the road... trust me, i know people who have done just that...
...BTW, power shifting (going 1-2-3-D) really isn't needed if you can drive an automatic well, the only time you need the lower gears are if you are towing something and are going up and down hills and need the torque.
Braking while revving the engine is a good way to start, but a nuetral dump gives you a bigger push in the beginning since the car will try to turn the wheels at the rpm rate that the engine is at. This gives a bigger punch at the beginning, but it's the resistance that the wheels place onto the tranny that messes it up, since the wheels originally don't want to move (Newton's Law).As for Power Shifting, it's the only way you know that you can get the full potential of all the gears before putting it in drive. If you're racing, you really don't want the computer to shift you into 3rd gear when the rpms are well below the redline.
Basically for that, it's all in the computer that controlls the gearbox. Get a racing chip, and you don't have to worry about power shifting or nuetral dumps since it's timed programmed to shift and whatnot at the "best" times. I'll see if I can put up a pic or something about what I mean.NeX:
When you shift in an auto, you can just leave your foot plastered to the floor. BUT, in most cars, this will give you a powerful, uncontollable jerk, so since I never tried in a Lancer, I would strongly suggest that you ease of the gas a bit right before the gears actually shift. Just make sure that you don't end up in reverse. Then you'll REALLY blow the tranny. And that would be REALLY bad!
As for the limiter, I never heard of a car that had it at only 2000rpms. I'll ask around about that.
yeah i notice when i slam on the gas for a second or two, and then ease up on it, then slam it again i actually go through gears faster but....... in a race on gratiot should i do that? or just slam it and go?
Originally posted by NeX
yeah i notice when i slam on the gas for a second or two, and then ease up on it, then slam it again i actually go through gears faster but....... in a race on gratiot should i do that? or just slam it and go?
yeah i notice when i slam on the gas for a second or two, and then ease up on it, then slam it again i actually go through gears faster but....... in a race on gratiot should i do that? or just slam it and go?
My friend from Malaysia showed me a trick for quick launch and speed turns. Now I'm not a big car enthusiast(at least I wasn't) so I don't understand the mechanics of how this works. I own a Lancer 02 OZ Rally edition and it's an automatic(My parents had say in the car). So, we got around talking about entering tight corners and how to maintain a certain speed, well he said my methods were far too primitive so I called him on it, thinking it was a bluff. But when he demonstrated his technique, I was shocked at the capabilities of my car. I was pushed back by the amount of G-Force he was driving at it was incredible. I'm slowly starting to get the hang of it and I'm getting better but the idea is this.
At a stop position(stepping on the brakes) change gears to "L"
than for the launch floor the car to almost redlining RPM or whenever your comfortable, make sure it hits about 4,000-5,000 rpm, shift it to "2" than do the same thing until hitting the same RPM as prevy and shift to "3" the launch is incredible and by doing this you will not lose speed the rpms' will minimully drop by a little but you'll feel the jerk forward.
P.S Please be advised this is not advice on street racing but rather info. Do not attempt this on roads, only tracks & whereever there is proper supervision!
At a stop position(stepping on the brakes) change gears to "L"
than for the launch floor the car to almost redlining RPM or whenever your comfortable, make sure it hits about 4,000-5,000 rpm, shift it to "2" than do the same thing until hitting the same RPM as prevy and shift to "3" the launch is incredible and by doing this you will not lose speed the rpms' will minimully drop by a little but you'll feel the jerk forward.
P.S Please be advised this is not advice on street racing but rather info. Do not attempt this on roads, only tracks & whereever there is proper supervision!
Originally posted by Rasputin
I'll call him on it, though. You'll wreck the CRAP out of your tranny if you try to shift it like a manual.
I'll call him on it, though. You'll wreck the CRAP out of your tranny if you try to shift it like a manual.
About auto and starting
You could get the lancer I'm getting in Australia. It has built in tiptronic gear shifting.
Which is basically clutchless manual.
It basically works like this...... you have the standard Park,N, Reverse, drive . gears ...like in any auto.
but when you want to go semi automatic you put it into drive but then move the stick leftAnd you then have a "+" to go up gears and a "-" to go down gears...... I recon it would improve the handling of an auto and give it some more guts . I don't think it would be as fast as shifting in a manual but it gives you a choice.... hey like I always said Auto's are classy..... just relax and if you don't know what to do with your hand put it on the lap af the girl sitting in the front seat
hehe enough of the dirty comments cya round
ps love this site .... it's getting my pumped for the day my lancer turns up at the dealer
Which is basically clutchless manual.
It basically works like this...... you have the standard Park,N, Reverse, drive . gears ...like in any auto.
but when you want to go semi automatic you put it into drive but then move the stick leftAnd you then have a "+" to go up gears and a "-" to go down gears...... I recon it would improve the handling of an auto and give it some more guts . I don't think it would be as fast as shifting in a manual but it gives you a choice.... hey like I always said Auto's are classy..... just relax and if you don't know what to do with your hand put it on the lap af the girl sitting in the front seat
hehe enough of the dirty comments cya round ps love this site .... it's getting my pumped for the day my lancer turns up at the dealer
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The Eclipses have something like that. It's called sportronic for them, though. Still only four forward gears, that's something
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The Eclipses have something like this, but it's called Sportronic for them. Too bad it's still only four forward gears.... It's not quite a clutchless manual in that it has a torque converter and planetary gearbox so you still get the parasitic losses that you would from a normal automatic. This means that your car with this mode is still slower than a manual version of this car.
And, yes, powershifting WILL ruin your transmission. It may not happen as quickly as if you were, say, doing neutral dumps, but it will happen and when it does, it won't be pretty. These gears are only meant to be used if you are towing something or are going up hills and need the torque. The transmission was not designed for you to rapidly shift from 1-2-3-D or L-2-3-D or L-3-D or whatever it says in your car. If you wanted that type of control, you were better off getting a manual in the first place.
And, yes, powershifting WILL ruin your transmission. It may not happen as quickly as if you were, say, doing neutral dumps, but it will happen and when it does, it won't be pretty. These gears are only meant to be used if you are towing something or are going up hills and need the torque. The transmission was not designed for you to rapidly shift from 1-2-3-D or L-2-3-D or L-3-D or whatever it says in your car. If you wanted that type of control, you were better off getting a manual in the first place.
if you wanna race, get a manual. thats just my opinion. any shifting and neutral dropping and anything else peeps up in here are talking about will screw up the automatic transmission... the keyword here is automatic.
besides, the lancer comes with an adaptive shifting automatic trnasmission. which means that the car actually adjusts its shifting points to best suit the respective driver's driving habits. me for example, the car will adjust itself to shift at high rpms, rather than if my pops were to drive the car it sould shift at a lower rpms. thats pretty cool i think. sounds like a benz feature.
besides, the lancer comes with an adaptive shifting automatic trnasmission. which means that the car actually adjusts its shifting points to best suit the respective driver's driving habits. me for example, the car will adjust itself to shift at high rpms, rather than if my pops were to drive the car it sould shift at a lower rpms. thats pretty cool i think. sounds like a benz feature.


