Case study # 17 - new '05 MR !!
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From: 2003 Evo VIII - Silver
Originally Posted by kmxxbadboy
Can't wait to see you on Tuesday, Al.
Al,
If the opportunity presents itself, I would like to do a couple of things:
1) Walbro 255lph fuel pump
2) HKS cam shafts and gears
Most likely, I would want to get the fuel pump done and over with. The cam shafts/gears can come later on down the road. With all the minor bolt-on parts on already (intake, intercooler, dowpipe & exhaust) I believe we have a good solid foundation to start on.
If the opportunity presents itself, I would like to do a couple of things:
1) Walbro 255lph fuel pump
2) HKS cam shafts and gears
Most likely, I would want to get the fuel pump done and over with. The cam shafts/gears can come later on down the road. With all the minor bolt-on parts on already (intake, intercooler, dowpipe & exhaust) I believe we have a good solid foundation to start on.
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Or just get the turbo - that is where most of the gains come from
Have you flashed any cars with a 10.5 hotside upgrade or the Evo6.5 RS TME turbo?
The '05's have the same CHRA as the '03-'04 cars. Nothing different there. The difference is in the turbine housing (obviously) and the compressor housing.
If you were to upgrade the TH on a prevous model car your gains would be nearly identical to those of the '05 cars.
If you were to upgrade the TH on a prevous model car your gains would be nearly identical to those of the '05 cars.
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Originally Posted by kmxxbadboy
Al,
If the opportunity presents itself, I would like to do a couple of things:
1) Walbro 255lph fuel pump
2) HKS cam shafts and gears
Most likely, I would want to get the fuel pump done and over with. The cam shafts/gears can come later on down the road. With all the minor bolt-on parts on already (intake, intercooler, dowpipe & exhaust) I believe we have a good solid foundation to start on.
If the opportunity presents itself, I would like to do a couple of things:
1) Walbro 255lph fuel pump
2) HKS cam shafts and gears
Most likely, I would want to get the fuel pump done and over with. The cam shafts/gears can come later on down the road. With all the minor bolt-on parts on already (intake, intercooler, dowpipe & exhaust) I believe we have a good solid foundation to start on.
As for the cams - I would suggest the 264's and they can install those for you in the am if you like and I will tune it in the PM - just let me know so I know when to be there !
Its going to be great to see the massive whp and trq numbres from your MR aftera few mods go on - the new turbo is a real winner !
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
What's your thought on installing a 10.5 hotside on a stock 03/04 turbo? Do you think it's worth it? Wouldn't that get you to a similar position as the stock 05 turbo? This 05 turbo doesn't have Ti internals, does it?
Have you flashed any cars with a 10.5 hotside upgrade or the Evo6.5 RS TME turbo?
Have you flashed any cars with a 10.5 hotside upgrade or the Evo6.5 RS TME turbo?
the TME turbo - I only tuned once and it was holding like 30 psi of boost - insane
This new '05 turbo seems to be the best street turbo for the evo - with huge upgrade potential
I predict 350 ft lbs / 350 whp will be the norm with cams, intake, fmic and exhuast on pump gas
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Originally Posted by JustDSM
The '05's have the same CHRA as the '03-'04 cars. Nothing different there. The difference is in the turbine housing (obviously) and the compressor housing.
If you were to upgrade the TH on a prevous model car your gains would be nearly identical to those of the '05 cars.
If you were to upgrade the TH on a prevous model car your gains would be nearly identical to those of the '05 cars.
Could it be that it is not just the 05 turbo that is producing all of the gains over the 03/04's? I thought that the cams were changed in the 05's to make more power and have a better torque curve. Perhaps changing cams in an 05 wont make as big of a difference as the 03/04?
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Originally Posted by Evo H8
Could it be that it is not just the 05 turbo that is producing all of the gains over the 03/04's? I thought that the cams were changed in the 05's to make more power and have a better torque curve. Perhaps changing cams in an 05 wont make as big of a difference as the 03/04?
Of course all my thoughts are sheer speculation at this point
In due course we will have all the information and discover exactly where the power is comming from
I am very excited and happy to have this new flash softwear so that I can get my hands on the Mr and '05 right away - its going to be a lot of fun
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
AND the compressor housing as well. (and possibly something with the wastgate and 02 housing) I have to take one apart now

The wastegate and O2 housing are no different than previous models. I just looked at the part numbers.
Originally Posted by Evo H8
Could it be that it is not just the 05 turbo that is producing all of the gains over the 03/04's? I thought that the cams were changed in the 05's to make more power and have a better torque curve. Perhaps changing cams in an 05 wont make as big of a difference as the 03/04?
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Originally Posted by JustDSM
I mentioned the compressor housing 
The wastegate and O2 housing are no different than previous models. I just looked at the part numbers.

The wastegate and O2 housing are no different than previous models. I just looked at the part numbers.
Interesting that the wastegate is the same and o2 housing
I think I will have to order up some '05 turbo parts tomorrow and do some experimentation !






