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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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I dynoed in 3rd gear. I don't have the dynojet file. I will ask them at Ride Revolutions if they can email that to me.

I think the SAFC2, EBC and Reflash = Same capability as the Xede.

So basically I have the intake, SS manifold, HKS DLI2, and injectors that Smogrunner doesn't have. I would like to see the overlay also.

I think the reason my torque was higher is the fact that I peaked out at 25 psi of boost. Only held about 21.5 psi on the top end.

How much boost was Smogrunner running?
What cams is he running?

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Also in third gear, boost chart below (looks like 26 peak psi), 264i/272e, stock air filter and intake btw. Smoggy says Turbodawg is one of veterans on Evom and he is really only looking to understand differences. He says to ask about the exact type of dynojet. The Tuning Technologies one is a brand new DJ 424x.


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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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I would have to agree with Al in thinking the cam gear settings would cause the torque drop. Plus the headers might be the other piece of the puzzle?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by evowife
Also in third gear, boost chart below (looks like 26 peak psi), 264i/272e, stock air filter and intake btw. Smoggy says Turbodawg is one of veterans on Evom and he is really only looking to understand differences. He says to ask about the exact type of dynojet. The Tuning Technologies one is a brand new DJ 424x.

Iam looking at the graph and it looks like Somg is runnig less bost up high , 16ish psi vs Tdawg 21.5psi . I wonder if that due to a small leak in the ic pipes and that would acount for the lower tq# , Has your hubby done a boost check latley ?
Btw its very cool for you to ask hey whats up with this without slinging mud vs what happines on other parts of this site
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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were the boost numbers on the DD run the same as on smoggy's dynojet run??

perhaps also different weather conditions as it was relatively cool when brian dyno's (i think it was in the high 40s low 50s)...

the dynojet at ride revolutions read incredibly high tq numbers from what i observed...almost everyone that dynod showed higher tq numbers than hp numbers...perhaps dyno calibration??

i dunno just throwing random stuff out there...but congrats to brian who i think put down the best numbers of the day!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Sweet numbers!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOtagger
were the boost numbers on the DD run the same as on smoggy's dynojet run??

perhaps also different weather conditions as it was relatively cool when brian dyno's (i think it was in the high 40s low 50s)...

the dynojet at ride revolutions read incredibly high tq numbers from what i observed...almost everyone that dynod showed higher tq numbers than hp numbers...perhaps dyno calibration??

i dunno just throwing random stuff out there...but congrats to brian who i think put down the best numbers of the day!
Thanks David.

One thing to remember. The only thing the Dynojet measures is Energy (or Torque... This torque number is used to derive the whp.

HP = Torque * RPM/ 5252 . If the torque is inflated, then everything is. The RX8 that was there made 168 whp and 125 ft lbs of torque. He had some small mods on it including an intake. Those numbers are definitely not inflated.

There was another car similar to mine without the header and withour HKS DLI2, but he had the Work TB. He made 317 whp and less than 317 torque. He was running 100 octane also. He was only peaking to about 22.5 psi and dropping to 20.5 psi on the top end.

There were quite a few people that had torque numbers equal to or less than there HP numbers. One for example was the RX-8 and another evo that made 3 runs almost identical number 300 whp and 300 ft lbs.

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by evowife
Also in third gear, boost chart below (looks like 26 peak psi), 264i/272e, stock air filter and intake btw. Smoggy says Turbodawg is one of veterans on Evom and he is really only looking to understand differences. He says to ask about the exact type of dynojet. The Tuning Technologies one is a brand new DJ 424x.

I know their dyno is new, but I don't know what the exact model number of the dyno was.

I asked for the Dynojet files to send to Smogrunner, but all they sent me was some jpg files so far.

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TURBODAWG
Thanks David.

One thing to remember. The only thing the Dynojet measures is Energy (or Torque... This torque number is used to derive the whp.

HP = Torque * RPM/ 5252 . If the torque is inflated, then everything is. The RX8 that was there made 168 whp and 125 ft lbs of torque. He had some small mods on it including an intake. Those numbers are definitely not inflated.

There was another car similar to mine without the header and withour HKS DLI2, but he had the Work TB. He made 317 whp and less than 317 torque. He was running 100 octane also. He was only peaking to about 22.5 psi and dropping to 20.5 psi on the top end.

There were quite a few people that had torque numbers equal to or less than there HP numbers. One for example was the RX-8 and another evo that made 3 runs almost identical number 300 whp and 300 ft lbs.

Brian

good points...i only observed a few dyno runs including yours and the srt4 who i believe made in the 230whp range but upwards of 290ft/lbs...of course the srt4 is a torque monster, but those numbers just seemed odd to me

reguardless, your car is very strong! You'll have to let me ride in it sometime as well as the supra
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by evowife
Here are the basic hardware differences:

Smogrunner doesn't have:
Apexi Power intake filter
EBC
SAFC2
SSAutochrome Exhaust Manifold
HKS DLI2 Ignition plug n play
Greddy 660 cc injectors

Turbodawg doesn't have (unless I'm wrong):
cam gears
Xede (which takes place of reflash, ebc, safc2)

Where does the torque come from?
Evowife if you need bigger powerband from Smoggy I suggest you consult your Doctor. They might be able to refer you guys to a Doctor that can extend his powerband. This is not the correct forum to smear Smoggy's ineptness on. I hope he doesn't read these Freudian questions that you have asked. Poor lil Smoggy.

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOtagger
were the boost numbers on the DD run the same as on smoggy's dynojet run??

perhaps also different weather conditions as it was relatively cool when brian dyno's (i think it was in the high 40s low 50s)...
Hubby says boost has not been changed. His run was made in 58 degree weather, but Smoggy thinks the STD correction factor equalizes that for the most part...

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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eh, i wouldn't get too cought up in torque numbers, the particular pull or car makes a big difference in itself.

for instance, my previous car made 490rwtq on one pull, and without touching anything, made 520rwtq 15 minutes later with basically the same HP figure. also, i had a buddy with the same car with EXACT same mods and i made 25 more torque than he did on the same dyno. i do think the cam gears lost a little of it though, what was your cam gear setting smog? -4,-1? or -3,-3?
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