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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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First Time on Dyno

Due to some outside influnces from friends at work and a few others with evos I decided to get the mail in flash.

Due to more pestering and driving co-worker's evo, I decided to go to Buschur and get the full custom tune.

Due to kicking myself around, I decided to add a Hallman MBC, Buschur Intake and filter, and APS BOV to make the tune worth it. I was throwing around the idea of upgrading the exhaust system, but I'll have to hold off on that for a while.

Anyway, The results are attached.

(Max Power = 237.5 @ 6750; Max Torque = 237.2 @ 4250)

For the 3 mods that I have, do you guys think this is good power???
Any other MRs I can compare with???
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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do you have a baseline? what kind of a dyno did you use?

edit: oh mustang dyno. ha, maybe i should look at your sheet. seems about right...
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Nice especially on BR dyno but you should have waited on the tune until the TB or cams
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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You should have just waited untill you got an exhaust before the tune.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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To put your numbers in perspective, that would equal about 275 on a dyno jet dyno.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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bTW - I wonder why people are so fixated with dyno numbers?

By changing some of the correction factors in the mustang dyno it can be manipulated to read out any numbers you want.

A dyno is properly used as a tuning tool to run the car and sample data so that changes can be made.

What is important is the shape of the curve which in this case is nearly ideal and the A - B comparision before and after tuning.Inst how the car "feels" and runs more imporant than a few whp one way or the other?

What use is a dyno sheet figure that quickly diasapears as soon as the car is driven on a real road and the ecu starts to pull timing ?

How did your car feel before and after the tune ?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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^ Indeed, tunning is about making the car run smooth and still make more power. My car felt like night and day after the tunning. Saftety before power, if it was the other way around people could just lean out there **** and make high dyno numbers, but I bet you won't be around for long
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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MeKilla: No didn't have a baseline. It was one of those Monday decisions. Monday through Thursday pick up the parts and install. Friday tune.

GOKOU / sleet: Couldn't wait.

Dynoflash (Al): I don't know if remember driving my car, but it pulls a lot harder than I remember.

On a side note, I think I saw a guy who got a tune the Thursday before me. He mentioned something about getting the Buschur stage 1 and a Forge BOV. I kinda felt bad that he had to get a tune for 91 when I filled up with 93 at a gas station 10 minutes away. I believe I got a little more power than he did. I guess a retune is always a possiblity.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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I dynoed 232HP/233TQ on a mustang dyno using the same specs you used (weight & HP@50MPH) with just a drop-in HKS filter and a JDM MR DV on ****ty cali 91oct.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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come on that is an age old thing, its my ***** are bigger than yours.. you should know, your a tuner and have to deal with this stuff.. dyno is a tool, not a bragging sheet..
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
bTW - I wonder why people are so fixated with dyno numbers?

By changing some of the correction factors in the mustang dyno it can be manipulated to read out any numbers you want.

A dyno is properly used as a tuning tool to run the car and sample data so that changes can be made.

What is important is the shape of the curve which in this case is nearly ideal and the A - B comparision before and after tuning.Inst how the car "feels" and runs more imporant than a few whp one way or the other?

What use is a dyno sheet figure that quickly diasapears as soon as the car is driven on a real road and the ecu starts to pull timing ?

How did your car feel before and after the tune ?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
I dynoed 232HP/233TQ on a mustang dyno using the same specs you used (weight & HP@50MPH) with just a drop-in HKS filter and a JDM MR DV on ****ty cali 91oct.
Wow that's awesome. I dynoed 193 on a Mustang stock and that is with 93 octane. Didn't know HKS drop in and a JDM MR BOV add that much power.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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hmm this is prolly a dumb question but what is the prefered dyno the mustang dyno or the dyno jet??..i have not looked into it why does one give lower numbers again? jw
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AtO-MiX
hmm this is prolly a dumb question but what is the prefered dyno the mustang dyno or the dyno jet??..i have not looked into it why does one give lower numbers again? jw
A Dynojet is essentially just rollers. The car moves them. Essentially measuring power as if your car is up in the air, not on the ground. Hence the higher numbers. Mustang puts a load on your car, much like it's on the road. It is more accurate. So the car actually has to work to get the Dyno moving, hence the lower numbers.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Other things to keep in mind.
1. Sometimes people who tune on a Dynojet tend to get knock on the road, because the car is subject to loaded conditions not present on the Dynojet. I actually learned that from PD. Makes sense. Mustang mimics real world conditions.

2. Say you go to a Dynojet and make say 230whp. Go to the track and run xx.xx in the quarter. You maybe disappinted because maybe you had higher expectations. " I am making 230whp and I only ran x amount of seconds.
Now say you go to a Mustang and dyno 193, which is what I did. Expecations aren't as high. But take it to the track and you can say "Wow!" I ran an awesome time and I only put xxxwhp.

The way I see it, before the 193whp run, I thought my car was quick and still do. But there is still a lot of untapped power. Even if I just hit 270whp, that is going to be pretty quick. On the same dyno of course.
I am not saying that a Dynojet is a bad tool. If you are going to use it to tune, make sure you consistently use it. Otherwise your numbers will be way off. If you base on a Dynojet, tune on a Dynojet. I like the MD as it doesn't raise your hopes. But all dyno's should only be used to measure progress. If you do use dyno numbers to show off figures, make sure people understand the Dyno used and what type of readings they put out.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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hmm ic thanks for explaining that
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