Al, if you're not doing special pricing for military, what about previous/current customers (i.e. had flashed VIII and traded in for IX)?

 

As it stands now the $249 shipped I am doing on the IX may be the lowest price ever

I have over $8,000 tied up in devoping this product - its going to be a while before i can start discounting it

 

guys from reading almost every thread about dynoflash's tune. the price is more then worth it. just step up to the plate and go for it. hell we drive evo's not civics. al provides us a great tune and we all should be thankful he is offering it at this price. peace and btw, al i might be getting a ix within a week, so i might need a flash asap

 

sounds like a deal if i still had my evo...totalled it on christmas day..=(

 

One more day to pay at the sale price and save $50 - you can send in the ecu anytime in the next few weeks

 

Sounds like my grandparents... always asking everyone everywhere they go if they have a senior citizen discount... lol

 

Hi Al,

I have a bone stock IX and I'm thinking about getting a custom tune from you in D.C. when you come down in January. I have a few questions

First of all, I'm actually wondering if it's worth it to get a custom tune over the base flash with a stock car (possibly will add MBC before tune, see below). I assume that you have a good amount of experience with the IX now, and wonder if you've seen much variance in how a stock car responds to tuning such that you really need to detune the base flash much?

How many of those combinations of parts on the first post were tuned on the dyno? I'm curious if you see any difference at all with any of the intakes over stock at these hp levels?

If I do a custom tune and want a 'dual stage' flash (which means I would have the MBC in as my only mod), do I actually need to bring race gas to the appointment (or make sure the shop has it)? Or do you simply do the tune on 93 (what we have here) and then apply some global offset to the higher load points to lean it out a bit for the higher octane that I better have in there when I crank up the boost?

Boost control ... which do you think controls boost better in terms of how fast they spool, the ability to limit boost spike on spoolup when hitting peak boost, and holding boost to redline: stock system with your flash or MBC? I understand that the MBC wont be able to compensate for atmospheric conditions but I wont have any flexibility in terms of what boost I run (and thus no 'dual stage' I guess) without it. Taking those points out of the equation, what are your takes on the other performance metrics above or any other thoughts?

Thanks!
Josh

 

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1 - I would always get custom tunes on my cars for an extra $200 its worth it just to have the data pulled and verified - thats my opinion

2 - The intakes are worth about 8 - 10 whp over the stock just as in the Evo 8 - however they are much louder than with the 8 on the IX - the turbo makes a lot of noise when you are letting off the gas compared to the 8 - some people may be annoyed by the sound - (I like it)

3 - With a dual stage map it is best to bring 5 gals of race fuel along to test the second stage

4 - I am still working on the boost hose modifications which WILL be needed to work the stock ecu with any performance boost level. The stock hoses will not accomidate any decent levels of boost. I think I will have the boost hose set up conifgured and read to go by your tuning date but it will be close.

IMHO a MBC is the best way to go for performance - but it is not that warranty friendly which is a reason why many people stick with the stock ecu controlling boost.

I am working on the boost hose to try and get the IX working as well as my 2003 - 2005 evo 8 "V3" boost controlling flash which did a real good job at holding the boost near 20 psi.

The problem is every IX we run into wants to change to the mbc so I have not had a lot of people to work with. I have one for next weekend in Florida and have set aside an entire day to work on it so I hope to find the perfcet combinations on that day.

 

Thanks for answering all of my (picky according to Warrtalon ) questions!

I think I have a plan now ... I'll go ahead and get the custom tune, leave the car bone stock for my first wave of upgrades, and be another test case for your flash controlling the boost. That is assuming you have the 'boost tube' thing figured out by mid Jan.

Regarding that ... on the subbies, I think folks simply changed the restrictor pill in the vacuum line in order to achieve higher boost targets once the wastegate duty cycle reached 100% in the ECU. Is the 'boost tube' solution something akin to changing the restrictor pill, or does the Evo boost control system work differently somehow? Is it basically just a different diameter vacuum line or something? Sorry for being ignorant on this subject.

The other option on the subbies was to use the Perrin boost control solenoid instead of the stocker ... have you played with these at all on the Evo or do you know if it would even work?

There is just something beautiful to me in changing the least amount of parts for maximum gain, and I have this dastardly desire to see what the car can do with 100% stock parts and your flash. I just think it's going to be a blast surprising people that think I have a bone stock car with 286 bhp, but in reality can push something close to 300whp (hoping)! They can even look under the hood and see that it's 100% bone stock.

Also, with the stock cat in place, I assume that I shouldn't really run race gas too often (unless there is unleaded high octane stuff available? I've only seen up to 100 unleaded) ... which then means that I probably have no business with a dual stage flash ... which then means that the MBC isn't going to be necessary ... yet (OK, Warrtalon's right, I overthink things )

Anyway, I'm sure that the new found power will last me all of a few months ... next up would be a full TBE, MBC, dual stage flash, and maybe intake too. As yes, I LOVE the sound that the Evo IX turbo makes even with the stock intake ... hearing more of it could only be a good thing at this point!

FYI, my '05 STi required a full 3" TBE (with high flow cat) and a custom dyno tune (EcuTek) to reach 290whp/315wtq. If you can beat that on a bone stock Evo IX with just the flash, that is going to rock!

Thanks again,
Josh

 

Changing the bost hose involves selecting a perfect balance of upper and lower pills to increase the boost while not allowing spikes


unleaded is always a good idea with cat and 02 sensors

 

Thanks Al. Looking forward to it ... please keep us posted regarding the boost hose solution and the January 16-17 D.C. timing. I'll add the MBC in a heart beat if you don't think it's going to be ready.

BTW, cij911 ... if you're reading this thread ... get your a$$ over to dcevoclub.com, sign up, and send in your deposit for the 16th! I know you don't want me pulling on you in the straights

 

Heh, you sound exactly like me. I'm going to have Al tune my car this Saturday with a custom tune when he comes to Florida with a Dynoflash. I want to see how this car will react with just a flash alone. If all things go well, I think I'll be Al's first test case of his revised boost tube system the next day after my tune.

Damn it, Saturday can't come here any sooner!

 

Btw, there is only one slot remaining for a IX custom road tune, and that's from 4-7pm. Girlie is about to take it, and I know you paid your deposit, Josh, but you haven't told me whether to give you a IX road tune slot or a IX base flash slot. Let me know.

As for cij911, I hope he doesn't get mad about the gearing thread!

Josh, I went 12.22 on my stock cat by using a 50/50 mix of 104/93oct at the track. I would toss in about 3gals of 104 with less than a 1/4 tank of 93, crank the boost to 23-24psi, lean out the SAFC, then pick up at least 30whp, since my traps went up 3-4mph easily. You could definitely take advantage of the dual stage on 100-104oct, because the knock resistance allows us to run 24psi easily.

 

I want it, please!

I'll have to check out the gearing thread. I hope you gave him a hard time ... darn Porsche lovers