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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Postponed Until July!

POSTPONED UNTIL JULY!

What: Dynoflash Custom Tuning
Why: To make your car fast, smooth, and reliable
Who: All Rocky Mountain Evos
When: Saturday, June 10th, and Sunday, June 11th
Where:
Revolutions Tuning
417 E. Vermijo Ave
Unit H.
Colorado Springs, CO 80904
Phone: 719-635-6200

Dynoflash Features:
- AFR optimization
- Timing optimization
- Launch Control (rpm of your choice - 6000rpm default)
- Raised Rev Limiter (rpm of your choice - 7800rpm default)
- Removed Fuel Cut
- Removed Top Speed Limiter
- Idle Control (for 272 or 280 cams)

03-05 VIIIs
- Base mail-in flash customized for your mods and a brief drive to ensure quality = $175 (no appointment)
- Custom road tune for new customer = $375 (2hr appointment)
- Custom road tune for existing customer = $300 (2hr appointment)

06 IXs
- Base mail-in flash customized for your mods and a brief drive to ensure quality = $250 (no longer requires an appointment)
- Custom road tune = $450 (2hr appointment)
- Custom road tune for existing customer = $300 (2hr appointment)

To reserve a timeslot, you MUST first send a $100 deposit to paypal@dynoflash.com with a note saying it's for the CO trip, then tell me your first name and the timeslot you want. Once payment is received, your slot is reserved. This goes for all custom road tunes only. Base flashes do not need a timeslot nor deposit.

Schedule
Saturday, June 10th
1000-1200 - Nutrancher (Chris) IX - Deposit Sent (WT package upgrade)
1200-1400 - BigD (Dave) IX - Deposit Sent (new customer)
1400-1600 - Tobz (Brian) VIII - Deposit Sent (repeat customer)
1600-1800 -
1800-2000 -
2000-2200 -

Sunday, June 11th
1000-1200 -
1200-1400 - Hashfather (Justin) VIII - Deposit Sent
1400-1600 -
1600-1800 -
1800-2000 -
2000-2200 -

Base flashes only take 10mins and can be done without an appointment, so just show up whenever you have time. By the way, there will be no 2-step additions to existing flashes, but all new flashes (or reflashes) include the launch control. It is complicated and there won't be time for it amidst all the other scheduled tuning.

THIS TRIP IS NOT YET CONFIRMED UNTIL THERE ARE 5 DEPOSITS. If you have any questions, then let me know.

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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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I know this is a stupid question but what are the major differences between a base flash and a custom tune? My knowlege is limited when it comes to tuning. thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Custom tune involves actually hooking up wide band 02 sesnor and data logging equipment and me driving your car for two hours while I adjust and fine tune the base map to patch your car and make it perfect

Base Flash is a uniform generic tuning calibration which is customized to work with your specific modifications and driving style but with no testing or individual adjustment

After two and a half years of daily evo tuning my base flashes are very good but nothing can replace the process of custom tuning if your budget can afford it
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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Ok i just sent the deposit, I would like the 1200-1400 spot on Sunday thanks.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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hey Warr...? I have a mail-in flash, and I know it's probably not near as good as a road tune. But I have the flash and I have now tuned my SAFC to a better A/F ratio (11.8:1) Do you think a raod tune is needed? I am sure it would make my car run optimal......but I don't know if there would be much of a change.

Let me know your thoughts.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Hash, what is your name?

Smokey, just tuning yourself to an 11.8 AFR doesn't mean you're better tuned. In fact, 11.8 is more lean than I run on ALKY. Al wouldn't even tune you to 11.8 AFRs on 91oct, but it's not just AFRs that makes power. It's the combination of boost, AFR, and timing. I think a custom tune would put your car in perfect shape, and then you could use the SAFC for race gas tuning at the track.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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It's Justin.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Hash, what is your name?

Smokey, just tuning yourself to an 11.8 AFR doesn't mean you're better tuned. In fact, 11.8 is more lean than I run on ALKY. Al wouldn't even tune you to 11.8 AFRs on 91oct, but it's not just AFRs that makes power. It's the combination of boost, AFR, and timing. I think a custom tune would put your car in perfect shape, and then you could use the SAFC for race gas tuning at the track.

Thank you. People at AMS think otherwise. They told one of my friends that even 12:1 up here was still somewhat rich. Cuase they tune there cars at 12:1 and they said up here in colorado we should be fine up to 12.4:1.

But hey who am I to argue. I am just learning WHat is an ideal A/F ratio up here???

I will have to see if I can afford that by the time he comes down again.

Thanks for the info
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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I highly doubt AMS tunes their customer cars to 12.1 at 93oct near sea level. That would be extremely dangerous. Most people don't even tune to above 11.5. And as I said, 12.1 is definitely not "rich" no matter where you are. Altitude does change the game, but I'm only running 11.3-11.5 on alky. I leaned myself out with the SAFC on the dyno up to 12.1 and got no change in power.

Regardless, as I said, there is no one AFR that is best. You can't just tune your AFR and think you're cool. It's all about timing, boost, and knock in relation to AFRs. That's what Al checks when he custom tunes. He gets the proper balance of boost, AFR, and knock-free timing for whatever setup you have.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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I highly doubt AMS tunes their customer cars to 12.1 at 93oct near sea level. That would be extremely dangerous. Most people don't even tune to above 11.5. And as I said, 12.1 is definitely not "rich" no matter where you are. Altitude does change the game, but I'm only running 11.3-11.5 on alky. I leaned myself out with the SAFC on the dyno up to 12.1 and got no change in power.

Regardless, as I said, there is no one AFR that is best. You can't just tune your AFR and think you're cool. It's all about timing, boost, and knock in relation to AFRs. That's what Al checks when he custom tunes. He gets the proper balance of boost, AFR, and knock-free timing for whatever setup you have.

After talking to you...I find myself leaning towards getting the whole A/F meter and sensor and than having you teach me to tune it

Cause I really want to learn to do it myself and tune it for optimal performance.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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To do that, you'd need something other than an SAFC, though, because it has no direct control over timing. You'd need an advanced piggyback or a standalone. We can tinker with SAFCs, but it will never be optimal.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Which I understand. Thank you. One learning tool at a time. I won't get a piggyback just yet. soon...but I would also like to learn the A/F ratio prtion of my car. can you show me how to tune the AFC if I got the proper tools?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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I can, yes, for a fee of $1000, kthx.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I can, yes, for a fee of $1000, kthx.

sure no problem...do you accept checks with rubber corners??
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