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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Some questions for you, BigLEVO:
- which wideband do you have?
- Where and how is the wideband sensor mounted (e.g. direction of sensor, before/after cat, etc.)?
- Have you ever run leaded racegas with your wideband installed?
- How old is the sensor?
- Did you change the lambda multiplier on your wideband (assuming it is from Innovate)?

If you did not change the lambda multiplier, then you should be reading in the mid-11s at WOT when you're spraying meth. Anything much above that and, as the saying goes ... ye pays yer money and takes yer chances.

Have you considered that the inconsistent AFR readings may also be due to inconsistent meth injection?

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-I have the innovate XD-1 wideband
-i have a test pipe and its mounted horizontal on a 3'oclock position if you stand in front of the car at the end of the downpipe.
-never ran any type of leaded gas
-i just got the wideband maybe 2 months ago at the most has like maybe 2500 miles on it
-i have no idea how to change the lambda multiplier so i doubt i changed it.

I also have considered the inconsistent AFR readins due to inconsistent meth injection....I am trying to figure out how to test that possibly.....gauge pressure is about 120 psi at 3k at idle and A/Fs drops down to low 10 high 9s when i do that.....


As for Creamo.....I am using the nozzle that came with the SMC kit which i belive is 7.... I also sometimes get mid 11s at WOT...I noticed that when I am in 3rd gear and aroun 5000 RPM and above and I punch it AF are aroun mid 11s but if I do like 3rd gear in lower RPMs its when it shoots into the 12s. I am stumped.

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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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A clogged methyl nozzle will certainly lean you out
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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nozzle is ok no cloggin...this is irrelevant but here is a video of the dyno run for those who are interested...

http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t=MVI_0816.flv
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLEVO
-I have the innovate XD-1 wideband
-i have a test pipe and its mounted horizontal on a 3'oclock position if you stand in front of the car at the end of the downpipe.
-never ran any type of leaded gas
-i just got the wideband maybe 2 months ago at the most has like maybe 2500 miles on it
-i have no idea how to change the lambda multiplier so i doubt i changed it.

I also have considered the inconsistent AFR readins due to inconsistent meth injection....I am trying to figure out how to test that possibly.....gauge pressure is about 120 psi at 3k at idle and A/Fs drops down to low 10 high 9s when i do that.....


As for Creamo.....I am using the nozzle that came with the SMC kit which i belive is 7.... I also sometimes get mid 11s at WOT...I noticed that when I am in 3rd gear and aroun 5000 RPM and above and I punch it AF are aroun mid 11s but if I do like 3rd gear in lower RPMs its when it shoots into the 12s. I am stumped.
Hmm, just exactly when does it switch from being in the 12s to being in the 11's? If you're in the 12s below 4000 RPM and goes into the mid 11s past that, then I wouldn't worry about it too much. Maybe add that 1/2 point like Al said... However if it stays in the 12s all the way, then you might want to have it checked out.

Sounds like you have the XD-1/LC-1 combo. In that case you could do a couple of runs and datalog your AFR with a laptop using Logworks.

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Hmm, just exactly when does it switch from being in the 12s to being in the 11's? If you're in the 12s below 4000 RPM and goes into the mid 11s past that, then I wouldn't worry about it too much. Maybe add that 1/2 point like Al said... However if it stays in the 12s all the way, then you might want to have it checked out.

Sounds like you have the XD-1/LC-1 combo. In that case you could do a couple of runs and datalog your AFR with a laptop using Logworks.

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if i am in lower rpms underk 4k and I hit it, it will start at high 12s and go to lower 12s by redlines, if lets say I start like at 5500 RPM and I do a pull it will be in the mid 11s....my laptop does not have a serial port connector I am lookin into a serial port to usb connector so that i can try to do some logs, if you dont mind when i get the adapter perhaps you can help me out on how to do these logs I do have the LM-1/CD-1 combo, thanks for all your guys help again.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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LM-1 is even easier. Just record the runs on the LM-1 and then download them to your laptop once you've got your USB to serial adapter working.

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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do you have the smc controller? if you do just turn your start and max points to a lower psi setting
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
LM-1 is even easier. Just record the runs on the LM-1 and then download them to your laptop once you've got your USB to serial adapter working.

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Im sorry I meant the LC-1/XD-1 combo my mistake...and I dont know how to mess with it...I will pull up the manual and hopefully I can play with it once I get that adapter....

Also I will try to change the settings on the SMC controller to see if that helps any...but then that would waste more alky....Im hopin it could be fixed maybe with an adjustment of the map so it wont waste alky...

AL I will PM you about that adjustment, I am just tryin to see if I can get a hold of somebody with a wideband to test it more time to see if its just in fact my wideband. Thanks again for all those that are tryin to help...
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Alky isn't expensive. It's about the price of 1/2 a tank of gas every two fill-ups!!($17/gal of 100%METH) If you are worried about wasting alky you should buy the cable from AL and get a custom tune with the 4 differents maps so you can load an Alky map when you want to use it.

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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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yaah i have the #10 nozzle starting at 14 and maxing at 23psi and i pay about $3.00 a gallon for 100% race meth and use about 1 gallon every 2 fill-ups...i think adjusting your meth would be the cheapest solution
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