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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Well, the answer to this question is not really important nor relevant, because it's just a made up guess. We don't know the exact drivetrain parasitic loss %, and we have reason to believe that the loss % is not linear as power increases, so there's really no way to know, and the number is not u seful anyway, since there's no way to measure it without an engine dyno.

If I had to guess, though, I would say closer to 400hp. 350-360 is only 20-30 more than 330, which is less than 10%. No regular car has a drivetrain loss of 10%...AWD is usually closer to 20%.
From david buschur himself:

¨We all just need to be clear that Dynojet numbers ARE NOT ACTUAL WHP NUMBERS. If anything the numbers a Dynojet spits out are more closely related to flywheel numbers.

Before anyone opens their mouth to argue the point, the inventor, designer, originator of the Dynojet openly stated this a few months back in 3 major automotive magazines. I actually quoted what he had to say here on EVOm.¨
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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Warrt thanks

warrt thanks again , i didnt think the fuel pump was needed , i forgot to mention for the money this package is the best bang for your doller, warrt knows his s--t he wont steer you wrong
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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Weel look at my sig I spent over 6k at AMS and I have 330whp
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by streetturbo
From david buschur himself:

¨We all just need to be clear that Dynojet numbers ARE NOT ACTUAL WHP NUMBERS. If anything the numbers a Dynojet spits out are more closely related to flywheel numbers.

Before anyone opens their mouth to argue the point, the inventor, designer, originator of the Dynojet openly stated this a few months back in 3 major automotive magazines. I actually quoted what he had to say here on EVOm.¨
You aren't arguing anything. The point is that Dynojet's are the basis for comparison. Whether that is wheel HP, crank HP, moon HP, fantasy HP, it does not matter. It's just a number - that's all. It's a basis for comparison - that's it. Therefore, I see no relevance to your post here, because it certainly has nothing to do with the topic.

For reference, 03/04 Evos were rated at 271 crank HP and put down 220-230whp on Dynojets. Well, that doesn't look like crank HP to me - how about you? Then, 05s were rated only 5hp higher, but they were dyno'ing 240-250whp. So, maybe you'd argue that's just crank hp. Ok, well those same 05s were doing 13.0-13.1 at 104-105mph. If the Evo can do that at 3400+lbs on only 240-250 crank HP, hey great! Then, 06s were only rated 10hp higher at 286, but yet they are dyno'ing at 260-270whp on Dynojet. Ok, so that's crank hp? Whatever, call it Steering Wheel HP for all I care, because they're hitting 12.8-12.9 at 106/107. The Evos are putting down more power each year than Mitsu publishes, and the Dynojet is showing the relative difference. That's all that matters.

330whp will be gained with this package and that's based off a ~260 starting point in stock form.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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JamEvo8 I think you need to get re-tuned. Guys at AMS wouldn't allow an Evo IX with 6k in upgrades to walk out with 330awhp. I'm sure its untuned or there was something critical missing when they tuned it. Possibly a large boost leak?
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jamevo8
Weel look at my sig I spent over 6k at AMS and I have 330whp
If I spent that much for that kind of power I'd shoot myself. Just for reference, I have less than a grand invested and I am making 300whp.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Unfortunately, after all this questioning, riding with Uncle Boo, me helping him many times in threads and PMs, he decided to go ahead and spend $2000+ to go to TurboTrix despite how poorly he was treated in their forum.

Oh well, can't win 'em all.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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his loss on a great product that puts good #s both on the dyno's and at the tracks my put down 318-323 on 92 oct at torquefreaks in portland,or
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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warrtalon do me a favor and find out when is the earliest that buschur can have my stuff shipped. that is if your willing to give me step by step instructions. I'm going to take your word cause you seem so confident in your package. I want the warrtalon /buschur with the test pipe, the bullet muffler.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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They're closed for now, but I can check tomorrow to find out what is delaying shipment. You said it was the DP, so I'll make sure.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Is there anything else besides the wt/br package that can add a few more hp maybe the buschur intake with filter, or uicp ? let me know
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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No, those don't really add power. If you want the intake, get the Buschur Stg 1. UICPs don't add power to the Evo, but the LICP does.

Just wait and get a set of GSC 280cams as soon as they're released in July. They are only $599 shipped, which is $300 less than TurboTrix.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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are cams easy to install? will I need atune afterwards? Those guys at buschur are so tried me calling them and ordering and then canceling etc.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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It has been 7 business days and I still dont have my package..was looking forward to it possibly being here today :/ Wish they actually stocked parts and told the customer if theres gonna be delays.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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they told me a week and a half
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