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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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I had a good time. You can learn alot just standing around watching, listening and talking.
You find out fast who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't have a clue.
I met a few guys, all cool. saw some nice cars.
I'd say that TaiwonEvo didn't give Al a chance. When he was done with his test ride he just pulled up and his friends jumped in, no feedback. Al is all about customer satisfaction. I think he also has Sincity's flashlight along with the power converters.
I had a small issue with idle that we (Al and myself) could not figure out. Thought it was a bad injector.
Once I got home, I checked them good, found one that wasn't seated properly, I also closed the air bleed screw some. Now it idles like a 4 cylinder with big cams, which is what it has.
My power is silky smooth, I swore he was taking it to 9K because it just kept pulling.
I also got better mieage going home compared to driving there.
Al showed me the base map he was loading in my ECU and said "now thats a smooth map, look at that", it looked like the numbers and letters on the Matrix movie!!! Glad he knows code.
Anyway, Al is cool, the flash is great, the guys were great and the Evos were great, (and the beer next door at the brewery was great).
Thanks,
Rod
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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I want to start off by thanking Al, my car feels like it finally woke up. When I drove to school this morning at 0730 (nice and chilly out) my car was pulling pretty damn hard. I thought he did a good job on my tune, especially considering the circumstances. I'm sure it wasn't easy trying to tune and keep the crowd happy at the same time. It was cool getting to meet everyone last night. I wanted to say thanks to ev8sive for installing a fuel pump in my car at the last minute. Also, John I want to go for a ride in your car so when you get a chance hit me up. Hopefully when I get a new MBC and my boost actually holds I can get it on a DYNO and see what kind of #'s I'm running.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Yeah, I wish I could of gotten a ride in that black car....I wonder if he had any of that xylene stuff he was talking about in the car when he ran it....Al says that car will probably pull on mine. =)
Hah, you shoulda just asked. I gave ev8sive a ride to help Al convince him to get the flash done. And it worked haha. Overall im very happy with the mod and i truely cant see any mod being better for the money. Al knows his ****. And he wasa really cool guy, i didnt feel rushed at all. I also didnt think he was short temprered. He appologized a bunch of times for my appointment being delayed but i totally understood his situation and i was cool with it. it was fun seeing so many evos there and all getting tuned. Once again im very happy with the dynoflash. I didnt get the custom tune cuz im BROKE. But the baseflash worked out just great. For those of u still tryin to decide, GO WITH AL, send him ur ecu and he'll send u a monster.

Thanks again Al, ill let u know if i can get this boost situation resolved. A friend of mine is letting me borrow his bucsher MBC.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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From: 2003 Evo VIII - Silver
Originally posted by Secret Chimp
It was good meeting you this weekend Al. . The baseline flash seems to work quite well and it's easy to spot where the addtl hp was hiding!

But as you are aware, it did not cure my 0300 problem.

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that darn 0300 code on your car is particularly irritating !

I am still in town till late tomorrow - try calling me and I would like to hook up the gear and see if we can get it to duplicate so I can document where it is occuring.

Most - 99.999 % of the Dyno Flash customers never see these 0300 miss fire codes, I heard some info from about why they think it is happening. A few individual cars are really getting those codes a lot - AND - from what I can garner most of then are in cali ?? We should start a poll and get some information to see if there is any paterns on this ???
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by SinCityEvo
Same here. Nice meeting you and the other guys and despite the tech problems, we got it tuned well. I am very pleased with the results. I think my palm prints are still on the passenger side door from the 3rd gear pulls in traffic , but Al knows how to drive, for sure.

Couple questions that I forgot to get. Since I had the base flash, is the custom street tune called the Fireball or does it have the fireball technology?

Also, if I don't get anymore mods on the car, the street tune that you did, is that tune set and will not change itself? Meaning, the A/F you dialed in and timing, will the tune stay in the range you set it and stay there and will not alter itself over time and need to be re-tuned?

Thanks again, Al. You pulled through for everyone, despite your technical problems.

For those of you not there on Saturday, Bishiboy and I had back-to-back appointments and we both drove 4-5 hours that day to get there. Al had to finish an earlier appointment and made sure the owner was happy despite being behind schedule. Bishiboy allowed me to go before him even though he had the earlier session. Al got mine done very quickly and made up some time and got Bishiboy done also and was working on two cars at the same time Saturday night. I was very pleased with my tune even though it was a short session thanks to DocMortal who had basically the same mods and Al used his baselines for me and dialed it in in three to five pulls.
Nice to meet you BTW!

To answer your questions . . .

The FIREBALL 1 & 2 technology is now used in ALL my flashes

FIREBALL 3 is in every car that has a upgraded fuel pump

If you do not change the mods or fuel - our researchg shows in long term testing that the settings will remain constant over several months of driving and you will lay down virtually identical dyno sheets even after driving 1,000's of miles

We have already conducted Beta testing of this back in September through December and there was virtually no examples of any significant variations over time

Basically the falsh is set in stone and there is nothing to change or adjust

One thing I will say about the whole process - Saturday afternoon was some hairy - nasty and wild driving trying to get consisitant and full pulls in 3rd gear with so much traffic on the road

I would have preferred my favorite 101 highway - which is why i came there in the 1st place - BUT

I can not tell you how pleased I am with the results I got with the 91 octane tuning

Particularly Bishiboy's car is almost a show case on smooth, linear and massive power

I thank you in particular for finding the "back road" that we were able to really utilize very well for the rest of the trip

Funny how things work out - the problem is now fixed - it was the smallest and most insignificant cable which they somehow neglected to ship out with the back up cables. Now I am back in action and ordered 3 of those so I'll be ready the next time.

BTW - I used your map I made on several of the Evos that showed up the following day for base flashing that matched your mods and it seems we really made a real good map. As we left the settings super conservative on your tune it seems to respond very well on other cars. In fact it responded so well I think we helped convince one guy who wanted to flash back to stock to stock with Dyno Flash!

Thanks again - and special thanks for everyone who was delayed and had to wait. Again, I am very sorry. The next time I come on the road, I intend to carry with me two complete and fully operational independant flashing set ups so that if one goes down I can quickly jump to the back up without having to waste time diagnosing specifically what is the problem. Only good news in all of this is that he have been at this for 8 months on an almost daily basis and this is the first and only time we had any issues of this nature. Once again, sorry for the delays and thanks for your patience.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by bishiboy
I had a good time. You can learn alot just standing around watching, listening and talking.
You find out fast who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't have a clue.
I met a few guys, all cool. saw some nice cars.
I'd say that TaiwonEvo didn't give Al a chance. When he was done with his test ride he just pulled up and his friends jumped in, no feedback. Al is all about customer satisfaction. I think he also has Sincity's flashlight along with the power converters.
I had a small issue with idle that we (Al and myself) could not figure out. Thought it was a bad injector.
Once I got home, I checked them good, found one that wasn't seated properly, I also closed the air bleed screw some. Now it idles like a 4 cylinder with big cams, which is what it has.
My power is silky smooth, I swore he was taking it to 9K because it just kept pulling.
I also got better mieage going home compared to driving there.
Al showed me the base map he was loading in my ECU and said "now thats a smooth map, look at that", it looked like the numbers and letters on the Matrix movie!!! Glad he knows code.
Anyway, Al is cool, the flash is great, the guys were great and the Evos were great, (and the beer next door at the brewery was great).
Thanks,
Rod
Nice to meet you and have a chance to drive a very well sorted evo

If you don't mind , Please post up a few pictures of your engine bay and fmic set up. The reason why this guy's car was so strong and well running on 91 octane had a LOT to do with his own personal custon fmic design and also the excelent parts selection and instalation.

No exgageration, this evo is prob one of the best running and most enjoyable to drive evos I have ever driven.

I am 100% sure that his intercooler - which he personally designed is the best fmic for a stock turbo evo I have ever worked with.

All I can say is I was blown away and I am very honored to be able to do the tune on such a nice running machine.

All you guys on the 91 octane should consider a good fmic upgrade - it really helps in detonation avoidance especially in the summer heat you all get out there

Hopefully you do not mind posting up a few pictures so my east coast customers can see the very tight install and fabrication job you have performed.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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PS - Bishiboy - I'd like to also see a picture of those guages again - if you don't mind I'd like to find out how to get them in my whip - those needles are super tight
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Hey Al,
It's Tom with the Yellow EVO w/ Work Emotions. I was the 2nd car you tuned on Friday. After reading all these posts, I guess a lot more people came with 91 octane. So it's safe to say that you experimented with my car first on 91.
My car's been running extremely smooth these past few days and I'm really impressed. I just hope that you estimated my HP wrong cuz 290whp for the mods I have is kinda low. But like you said....Cali's 91 octain **** gas does the trick
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Here's the thread I posted when I developed my intercooler set-up. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ht=custom+fmic
Here's the thread on the needles and gauge overlays. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=67694
Here's the thread with pics of my engine bay. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=bishiboy

Living in the desert of AZ, I knew heat would be my enemy. The 1st mod I did was a PWR radiator. I'll be getting a ralliart thermostat and 1.3bar rad cap soon.
Then later, I ordered the intercooler. I like to do custom stuff and not just buy other guys work. So I measured, read alot, mocked up with cardboard, then finally ordered the IC from Hong Kong. Got sheet aluminum diamond plate from lowes, and fabed it all together. I didn't like the look of the end tanks at 1st, but it works great.
I've also done many other custom mods; Relocate battery under my seat, DIY ground kit (one of the longest lasting threads on here), custom oil catch can ( I modified the interal part of the can with copper tubing and Chore Boy for the oil vapors to condesate on), MR head and tail lights, I supplied measuremnts to Outerwears Racing to make the pre-filter for the HKS RS (it's dusty in the desert). I'm working with a company that makes exhaust for school busses. They are making my custom IC pipes, 2 1/2" SS, similar to the Buschur set-up. (upper pipe will cost me around $200 with silicone conectors), lower pipe still being designed (by me).Some other small stuff too.

I love my EVO, it makes me smile everytime I get on the boost.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by bishiboy
Here's the thread I posted when I developed my intercooler set-up. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ht=custom+fmic
Here's the thread on the needles and gauge overlays. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=67694
Here's the thread with pics of my engine bay. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=bishiboy

Living in the desert of AZ, I knew heat would be my enemy. The 1st mod I did was a PWR radiator. I'll be getting a ralliart thermostat and 1.3bar rad cap soon.
Then later, I ordered the intercooler. I like to do custom stuff and not just buy other guys work. So I measured, read alot, mocked up with cardboard, then finally ordered the IC from Hong Kong. Got sheet aluminum diamond plate from lowes, and fabed it all together. I didn't like the look of the end tanks at 1st, but it works great.
I've also done many other custom mods; Relocate battery under my seat, DIY ground kit (one of the longest lasting threads on here), custom oil catch can ( I modified the interal part of the can with copper tubing and Chore Boy for the oil vapors to condesate on), MR head and tail lights, I supplied measuremnts to Outerwears Racing to make the pre-filter for the HKS RS (it's dusty in the desert). I'm working with a company that makes exhaust for school busses. They are making my custom IC pipes, 2 1/2" SS, similar to the Buschur set-up. (upper pipe will cost me around $200 with silicone conectors), lower pipe still being designed (by me).Some other small stuff too.

I love my EVO, it makes me smile everytime I get on the boost.
Thanks for the pics. All the way around a top job and thats comming from someone who tunes evos just about every day.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I think the fmic design you made with the staight in pipes is really a strong advantage over the ones that curve up like my own AMS fmic (which is still a great unit - BTW)

Given that the turbo, fuel, intake, cams, etc etc etc that you are using are all stadard items, its my impression that your car was particularly strong mostly due to the fmic design which seems to be super effective on the stcok turbo

Its easy to just make HUGE fmic's - which will work well with aftermarket turbo kits - however on the stock turbo it seems you have to balance flow, heat soak avodance and core size carefully to not have the weak stock turbo huffing too hard to fill up a really large fmic core

The Buschur fmic is one of the best I have seen to date and I would be running that IF I had the stock turbo location as it also includes the lower fmic pipe - but since i have a aftermarket turbo and aftermarket pipes already i chose the AMS

I think that your fmic is a super well designed unit for a stock turbo car and I give you major props for developing such an effective design and apparently without the aid of dyno time

I would like to hear what kind of numbers your car can do at a track as to me it felt exceptionally fast for a stock turbo car
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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I don't know how much it affects the stock turbo, but I also port matched the exhaust manifold to the turbo housing, I cleaned up all the flash in the exh manifold, turbo hot side, including a disturbing amount that was at the exit portion of the turbo exhuast side. There were major "chunks" of flash right where the exhaust pulses exit the housing to spin the turbine. I cleaned these up by hand with a small file. I also spent alot of work cleaning up the O2 housing and slightly enlarging it. I have to think it helped with spool-up and increased flow slightly.
By the way, I've NEVER done any port and polish work before. I went to Sears and bought a Die Grinder, went to a local speed shop and bought a DIY port and polish kit and barrowed by neighbors compressor. Then I went to work. It was pretty scary pulling the turbo apart. I didn't want to make any $3000 mistakes! Turned out well though.
Here's my original thread: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ort+and+polish
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Here's some pics of the port stuff, notice the flash here. I also already removed a couple BIG peices that almost reached aross the opening.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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more port work
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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more still
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