Dyno Flash challenge results! Vs. tuned AFC
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Dyno Flash challenge results! Vs. tuned AFC
Here is a guy who showed up to represent the Evo-NY cclub at our dyno day yesterday - I gave him the offer of the Dyno Flash challenge
He had a SAFC tuned by another local tuning house on the dyno - thier numbers were almost the same as the ones that we recorded on his base line dyno pull - 305 whp (not bad) and 269 ft lbs - not too good
His dyno curve was a bit bumppy and when I road tested it he was pulling timing in the middle - 5 degress ; then 2 degress then 5 ; it was a real rough power band
After installation of the through the mail Fire Ball 3 reflash - retail $199.99 - you can see his trq jumped up almost 60 ft lbs and is a lot smoother and better feeling
His top end picked up 15 whp and his car is now tuned much more safely
His previous tune was almost at 13.0 / 1 a/f which seems to be popular with some other tuners
The results speak for themselves and we have another satisfied member of the Dyno Flash happy customer group !
Anyone who wants to take the Dyno Flash Challenge - call me any time
If we dont get your car making more power and smoother your dyno time is free and you go back to the previous tune you had before
He had a SAFC tuned by another local tuning house on the dyno - thier numbers were almost the same as the ones that we recorded on his base line dyno pull - 305 whp (not bad) and 269 ft lbs - not too good
His dyno curve was a bit bumppy and when I road tested it he was pulling timing in the middle - 5 degress ; then 2 degress then 5 ; it was a real rough power band
After installation of the through the mail Fire Ball 3 reflash - retail $199.99 - you can see his trq jumped up almost 60 ft lbs and is a lot smoother and better feeling
His top end picked up 15 whp and his car is now tuned much more safely
His previous tune was almost at 13.0 / 1 a/f which seems to be popular with some other tuners
The results speak for themselves and we have another satisfied member of the Dyno Flash happy customer group !
Anyone who wants to take the Dyno Flash Challenge - call me any time
If we dont get your car making more power and smoother your dyno time is free and you go back to the previous tune you had before
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Game over ! Dyno Flash wins every time

By the way this guy's mods had NO CAMS !!!!!!!
RMR intake - ralli art induction pipe, intercooler pipes, 3" exhuast with test pipe, walboro 255 fuel pump, HKS EVC V, super afc
IMHO - an amazing result with such few mods

By the way this guy's mods had NO CAMS !!!!!!!
RMR intake - ralli art induction pipe, intercooler pipes, 3" exhuast with test pipe, walboro 255 fuel pump, HKS EVC V, super afc
IMHO - an amazing result with such few mods
Al have you had a chance to see if you could make more power then Vishnu's xflash? I know that Shiv posted something about if he can not make any more power over any other flash it's free. Do you have the same type of offer?
Originally Posted by evoindahouse
Al have you had a chance to see if you could make more power then Vishnu's xflash? I know that Shiv posted something about if he can not make any more power over any other flash it's free. Do you have the same type of offer?
"More power" is very subjective...
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Originally Posted by nastea
another fine dyno sheet
i'm sure the "other local tuner" would find some excuse as to why you picked up more hp and TONS more torque...no?
i'm sure the "other local tuner" would find some excuse as to why you picked up more hp and TONS more torque...no?It was kind of funny - when I took it for a test drive, as soon as I nailed it his exhuast muffler shot off his mid pipe. It hits very hard down low.
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Originally Posted by Zeus
"More power" is very subjective...
A guy with this level of mods can make from 285 whp to 320 whp and be tuned perfectly.
For me the main issues on tuning are repeatability, lack of ecu induced knock corection on the timing and low egts combined with a ultra smooth dyno sheet. Very often we have to compromise a lot of power left on the table to get a smooth sheet.
I will be the first to admit that this particular car was on the very high side of power for its mod list.
However - the point was to demonstrate what my $199.99 through the mail flash could do against a custom dyno tuned AFC from a reputatble tuning house.
Just for info - his final tune was de-tuned 4 whp from these levels as we felt this particular tune was too agressive for daily use.
Margin of saftey is very important.
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Originally Posted by evoindahouse
Al have you had a chance to see if you could make more power then Vishnu's xflash? I know that Shiv posted something about if he can not make any more power over any other flash it's free. Do you have the same type of offer?
I can't speak for Shiv - but for myself its more of an amusing fun thing for me in which I like to try and see what I can do
I have no real interest in playing games with the Xflash and honestly there are no Xflash customers around here to play with
Of course, I am always up to a test - for fun.
I am sure the Xflash produces very good numbers and is an excelent product.
In this case we were dealing with the SAFC piggy back which will NEVER be able to compete against ANY decently tuned reflash.
There are a lot of guys using SAFC's out there and I want them to know what they are missing - lots of low wne trq!
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Originally Posted by stvbreal
I see the mail-in flash is 199. I have Buschurs Stage 4 and was told to go to them for the flash. They charge 399. What's the difference?
The Buschur Flash produces amazing numbers and is a real blast to drive.
You can ONLY get the Buschur Flash from Buschur Racing.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Well - truth be known I started the Dyno Flash Challenge as a response to Shiv's Xflash Challenge
I can't speak for Shiv - but for myself its more of an amusing fun thing for me in which I like to try and see what I can do
I have no real interest in playing games with the Xflash and honestly there are no Xflash customers around here to play with
Of course, I am always up to a test - for fun.
I am sure the Xflash produces very good numbers and is an excelent product.
In this case we were dealing with the SAFC piggy back which will NEVER be able to compete against ANY decently tuned reflash.
There are a lot of guys using SAFC's out there and I want them to know what they are missing - lots of low wne trq!
I can't speak for Shiv - but for myself its more of an amusing fun thing for me in which I like to try and see what I can do
I have no real interest in playing games with the Xflash and honestly there are no Xflash customers around here to play with
Of course, I am always up to a test - for fun.
I am sure the Xflash produces very good numbers and is an excelent product.
In this case we were dealing with the SAFC piggy back which will NEVER be able to compete against ANY decently tuned reflash.
There are a lot of guys using SAFC's out there and I want them to know what they are missing - lots of low wne trq!
Its 200 bucks cheaper but if its a better product, why?
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Originally Posted by 4g63powered
Al, Ive been thining about a reflash but im a little confused. I have visited a different web site were you are a moderator of and you bash on Vishnu's products. Something about 289 dyno pulls. Right here you say its an excellent product.
Its 200 bucks cheaper but if its a better product, why?
Its 200 bucks cheaper but if its a better product, why?I have nolthing bad to say about any vendors - i love all my brother vendors
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