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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Question Need help with e85 please!!!

i am going to e85 in a couple days and i need to know if my single walbro will hold up.. i went with the FP Red setup with all bolt ons and stock internals.. i went with the 1200cc injectors and im hoping for 450awhp or more.. will i be ok on the single walbro.. i talked to ams and they said i need a double pumper or in-line fuel pump.. any help is greatly appriciated.. thank you
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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A twin pump set-up would be great. But you will be pushing one pump to the max to have enough fuel for 30 psi on the red. I would suggest staying around 25 to 28 psi with one walbro 255.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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I have the FP Red with 1250cc injectors, and I was running out of fuel with a single pump right around 29-30psi. You can make it work for 30psi, but your fuel map will have to heavily compensate for it at higher RPM. The single pump should be good for ~420-430whp.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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thanks alot guys.. i appreciate the help.. im gunna stick with the single pump and hopefully can make 430 awhp.. thanks agian
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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would a fuel rail and a fuel pressure regulator help?
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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I will be installing a fuel rail on my car next week to see if it helps.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Most setups with single pumps max out right about 450-460whp on our mustang dyno on E85.

The highest so far is 480whp on our dyno, for a single pump. The only difference with this car is it has a upgraded fuel rail and -6 AN line from the firewall to it. Still have complete fuel control. IDC's are around 89%, which doesn't mean much though because as soon as the pump can't do anymore the IDC's will shoot through the roof.

I'm convinced the rail helps for sure.

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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With a "stock" Walbro I was out of fuel at 24 psi and 430 whp. With a modified (pressure relief valve pushed-in) I was able to get to 28 psi and 460 whp.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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I forgot to mention, none of the single pumps on our dyno have been modded.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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I forgot to mention, none of the single pumps on our dyno have been modded.
So they didn't have the pressure relief valve munged shut?
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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So they didn't have the pressure relief valve munged shut?
Nope. Dropped-in unmolested walbros. I frown upon that mod.

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Nope. Dropped-in unmolested walbros. I frown upon that mod.

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Interesting. I thought it was needed if pushing more than around 26 psi of boost.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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I'm only on the stock turbo still, but I run an unmodified Walbro to 30 psi with no problem.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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thanks alot guys.. im gunna pick up a fuel rail tonight and just wing it with the single walbro, injectors, and the rail.. hopefully i can make descent power.. AMS is saying only around 400 to 420 on there dyno but we'll see.. im hopin for 430
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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they also said that it would be making 28-30lbs of boost.. you'd think it would make more than 420awhp
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