Officially on E
Officially on E
Well I have a 2.2 on a AEM infinity, 6766 forward facing, 2150s, DW300/AEM320 on a full blown double pumper. 2 stations just opened up less than 15 minutes away so iam on E85. My guage read 66.6% on the way home, 1/4th 91 and the rest E85. Anything I need to know? Cycle 91 after x amount of refills?
If you run a PCV and suck oily fumes into your intake manifold on decel, you should run a tank of 91 through every four of E85. This will help to remove buildup of any black injector gunk on E85 and may stop you from grenading your expensive motor.
Congrats for sure. I remember my first tune & run on E85 some 14 years ago. Love it!. Running 91 through now as the Gunk thing is real & we have a great thread that discusses it in detail.
The E85 just doesnt have the level of Polyisobutylene (PIB) as Gas does to control the buildup.
The E85 just doesnt have the level of Polyisobutylene (PIB) as Gas does to control the buildup.
Congrats for sure. I remember my first tune & run on E85 some 14 years ago. Love it!. Running 91 through now as the Gunk thing is real & we have a great thread that discusses it in detail.
The E85 just doesnt have the level of Polyisobutylene (PIB) as Gas does to control the buildup.
The E85 just doesnt have the level of Polyisobutylene (PIB) as Gas does to control the buildup.
i'm tuned to flexfuel but have always run straight E85 and love the power. I've never put any normal gas through it, I suppose I have some anxiety now if there might be a motor issue if I try a full tank of 98, should I just run a couple of gallons and keep an eye on my AFRs and see how it goes?
Congrats for sure. I remember my first tune & run on E85 some 14 years ago. Love it!. Running 91 through now as the Gunk thing is real & we have a great thread that discusses it in detail.
The E85 just doesnt have the level of Polyisobutylene (PIB) as Gas does to control the buildup.
The E85 just doesnt have the level of Polyisobutylene (PIB) as Gas does to control the buildup.
@B00st_junkie
Heres the quote / article from a member who noted, "he's an Engineer" & follows the petroleum industry. Thread link (page 9 of the thread)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/e8...ispreloading=1
The deposits primarily consist of "Poly Iso Butylene," or PIB, a cleaning additive in the gasoline portion of commercial E85 blends. As far as we know, the ethanol itself doesn't directly cause this type of problem with injector and valve deposits. This PIB additive was never designed for use in high ethanol concentrations.
PIB is designed to soften engine deposits, but below a certain concentration (by total fuel volume) it is actually counter-productive. What happens is that with insufficient PIB by volume, the normal valve deposits don't soften. The PIB actually combines with these normally occurring deposits and makes build up worse.
Running PIB-free E85 is basically impossible in a practical sense. GM engineers ordered special batches of PIB-free E85, but in the real world the E85 still becomes contaminated with PIB because the entire fuel refining and transport infrastructure has traces of it. Still, with this very low PIB concentration E85 deposits can still occur at similar rates.
Heres the quote / article from a member who noted, "he's an Engineer" & follows the petroleum industry. Thread link (page 9 of the thread)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/e8...ispreloading=1
The deposits primarily consist of "Poly Iso Butylene," or PIB, a cleaning additive in the gasoline portion of commercial E85 blends. As far as we know, the ethanol itself doesn't directly cause this type of problem with injector and valve deposits. This PIB additive was never designed for use in high ethanol concentrations.
PIB is designed to soften engine deposits, but below a certain concentration (by total fuel volume) it is actually counter-productive. What happens is that with insufficient PIB by volume, the normal valve deposits don't soften. The PIB actually combines with these normally occurring deposits and makes build up worse.
Running PIB-free E85 is basically impossible in a practical sense. GM engineers ordered special batches of PIB-free E85, but in the real world the E85 still becomes contaminated with PIB because the entire fuel refining and transport infrastructure has traces of it. Still, with this very low PIB concentration E85 deposits can still occur at similar rates.
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I'm now in NY with an E85 station down the street but haven't been here long enough to do any long-term analysis.
Unfortunately not as black and white as that. I was one of the first Evos on E85 and I ran E85 exclusively for 15 years or so when I lived in CA with zero amount of those issues. Others have had a ton of black gunk. :shrug:
I'm now in NY with an E85 station down the street but haven't been here long enough to do any long-term analysis.
I'm now in NY with an E85 station down the street but haven't been here long enough to do any long-term analysis.
Unfortunately not as black and white as that. I was one of the first Evos on E85 and I ran E85 exclusively for 15 years or so when I lived in CA with zero amount of those issues. Others have had a ton of black gunk. :shrug:
I'm now in NY with an E85 station down the street but haven't been here long enough to do any long-term analysis.
I'm now in NY with an E85 station down the street but haven't been here long enough to do any long-term analysis.
I lived in Newark/Belleville NJ when I was working in Manhattan. Not sure how hard it is now to keep a car. Many guys closer to Manhattan do their car work in my apartment streets lol
When I worked in NYC we lived in Northern New Jersey. Plenty of space for cars there. The roads just completely sucked.
I lived in South Orange NJ when I was commuting to Manhattan. It's more urban/suburban. Lots of space for cars. More family oriented. More green. I would take the NJ train to Hoboken and then PATH into world trade center every day. It would be about an hour and ten minute commute door to door. Which honestly was fine because you can relax on the train. Driving into Manhattan is an absolute nightmare and I would not recommend it.
Now we live on 3/4 of an acre in Upstate NY, with farms on one side and urban living right off the Hudson river on the other. I commute to my office in the house and I have all sorts of space for my toys. Rush hour here is when the buses line up to drop the kids off from school. hahah
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