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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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If anyone has a mild cam setup like HKS 264's and larger injectors I'd be interested in taking a look

I still haven't got my car to idle 100% right ugh ugh.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayton_EVO
Agreed

Then tell Al to stay out of the EcuFlash threads period. Besides, he is taking free software and selling maps based on free software that is designed for personal use. Al is trolling the EcuFlash forums so he can guarantee his sales which is evident now he offers EcuFlash maps for $$$. I think Vendors should only be aloud to post if they are actually teaching people how to tune, not push their products. Some vendors do have a cache of knowledge about tuning that could help us alot, if it is done in a responsible way when posting.

Couldnt have said it better, I am kind of tired of hearing, "I been flashing EVO's for 3 yrs blah, blah, blah" Anyways so how does this map posting thing work. I got a mail in flash a while back to remove my fuel cut and change rev limit basically. Not a custom tune and very pig rich so I have already altered the entire boost portion of it. Does that mean I am allowed to post it. Or how does it work.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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I think it's ok for Al to be in this forum, however I think he should only post tech replies/threads in here and no business related things whatsoever. He has his own forum for that.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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change everything in the map alittle bit which in your case is not very much
Originally Posted by mchuang
Couldnt have said it better, I am kind of tired of hearing, "I been flashing EVO's for 3 yrs blah, blah, blah" Anyways so how does this map posting thing work. I got a mail in flash a while back to remove my fuel cut and change rev limit basically. Not a custom tune and very pig rich so I have already altered the entire boost portion of it. Does that mean I am allowed to post it. Or how does it work.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayton_EVO
Agreed

Then tell Al to stay out of the EcuFlash threads period. Besides, he is taking free software and selling maps based on free software that is designed for personal use. Al is trolling the EcuFlash forums so he can guarantee his sales which is evident now he offers EcuFlash maps for $$$. I think Vendors should only be aloud to post if they are actually teaching people how to tune, not push their products. Some vendors do have a cache of knowledge about tuning that could help us alot, if it is done in a responsible way when posting.
He is offering flashes for $50 for god sake! I think he is actually doing the community a favor with that price.
Also, he has a reason for doing the high and low octane maps the same, and he was just backing that reasoning up. you see, with Al's flashes, his tune is safe enough that it will never switch to the low octane. when i put my WB with his flash on, the a/f numbers hit a max of 11.2 and was mostly at 10.5, and this was after adding a FMIC without updaing the tune.
i personally set both maps the same since i want to get the max performance all the time and i dont want to reset my battery every time i hit the track. the knock sensor does a good job, and i will leave it at that.
I remember reading (forgot where) before that it takes about 500 miles for the ecu to switch from the low octane to the high octane maps. But i know for sure that in the subies, they stay stuck in the low octane map, even when no knock is experienced for a long time. i dont want to experience the "oh my car is fast today"
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayton_EVO
Agreed

Then tell Al to stay out of the EcuFlash threads period. Besides, he is taking free software and selling maps based on free software that is designed for personal use. Al is trolling the EcuFlash forums so he can guarantee his sales which is evident now he offers EcuFlash maps for $$$. I think Vendors should only be aloud to post if they are actually teaching people how to tune, not push their products. Some vendors do have a cache of knowledge about tuning that could help us alot, if it is done in a responsible way when posting.

Please take your concerns and suggestions to the Suggestion/Feedback forum. The quickest way to get a thread locked is to derail it with OT comments. My remarks were directed at ALL the vendors, so lets not make this an opportunity to bash one. Thanks.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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Does anyone have map for 2004 EVO 8 only with highflow exhaust?
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimit
Please take your concerns and suggestions to the Suggestion/Feedback forum. The quickest way to get a thread locked is to derail it with OT comments. My remarks were directed at ALL the vendors, so lets not make this an opportunity to bash one. Thanks.
Done. Anyone that wants to chime in on having Al's thread moved to his own forum, go here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh....php?p=3238434

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Speedlimit, I wish you had not removed Shiv's post, but added a stern warning that you didn't approve.

That post provided alot of important tuning infomation (at Al's expense).
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisw
Speedlimit, I wish you had not removed Shiv's post, but added a stern warning that you didn't approve.

That post provided alot of important tuning infomation (at Al's expense).
I really wish I had seen that post.. just for the technical information, Shiv understands the Evo ECU as well if not better than most of the tuners out there and I would liked to have seen his technical insight into it.

But I think leaving it would have caused more harm then good and I think it was the right decision.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisw
Speedlimit, I wish you had not removed Shiv's post, but added a stern warning that you didn't approve.

That post provided alot of important tuning infomation (at Al's expense).
Can someone please summarize the technical portion of Shiv's comment? I just realize that Speedlimit (being enthusiastic to keep order) may have erased some pretty interesting technical information regarding the Evo 8 ecu.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
so called "low octane.
I got it, low octane map is just that - "low octane map".

Mitsubishi designed the ECu and map so if you put 89 octane in the tank on accident then drive hard, the engine doesn't melt.

So this means as a sacrafice to get desent power with the provided ecu from tuning, there is no room for mistake when getting gas - a bad tank of gas in this case can kill a motor (however, alcohol is the best cure for bad gas ).
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimit
Please take your concerns and suggestions to the Suggestion/Feedback forum. The quickest way to get a thread locked is to derail it with OT comments. My remarks were directed at ALL the vendors, so lets not make this an opportunity to bash one. Thanks.

I'm not bashing Al, I have his tune. I am simply making a valid point which others agree with and that you yourself said about vendors being in here especially him. I also said that "vendors" should only be aloud to post if it is for technical help to us all, not sales pitches. The facts are the facts and I'm sorry if I offended, no ill will intended. I will take it to the Suggestion/Feedback forum as you requested.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elhalisf
He is offering flashes for $50 for god sake! I think he is actually doing the community a favor with that price.
Also, he has a reason for doing the high and low octane maps the same, and he was just backing that reasoning up. you see, with Al's flashes, his tune is safe enough that it will never switch to the low octane. when i put my WB with his flash on, the a/f numbers hit a max of 11.2 and was mostly at 10.5, and this was after adding a FMIC without updaing the tune.
i personally set both maps the same since i want to get the max performance all the time and i dont want to reset my battery every time i hit the track. the knock sensor does a good job, and i will leave it at that.
I remember reading (forgot where) before that it takes about 500 miles for the ecu to switch from the low octane to the high octane maps. But i know for sure that in the subies, they stay stuck in the low octane map, even when no knock is experienced for a long time. i dont want to experience the "oh my car is fast today"
He's offering something that you can do yourself with EcuFlash. Use EcuFlash for what it was intended, for us as indviduals to be able to learn to tune our own Evo's and not have to pay out or depend totally on a tuner. We are here to learn to flash our own vehicles, not pay someone else which defeats the intended purpose. That goes for all vendors. If you are a vendor, we only ask for technical contribution to the cause if you may. No ill intended towards any tuner or bashing. We need the help, not sales pitches.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I really wish I had seen that post.. just for the technical information, Shiv understands the Evo ECU as well if not better than most of the tuners out there and I would liked to have seen his technical insight into it.

But I think leaving it would have caused more harm then good and I think it was the right decision.
Pretty much Shiv just posted an ignition map of a car that had a flash that came to him to get tuned. He didnt mention any names he just posted a pic to show how timing should not be. It looked to be a pretty crappy timing map. It had 8's and 9 for timing in most of the boost portion above 140% between 3000 rpm to 5500 rpm. It pretty much look like at 14psi the car with that map was running 8 degrees of timing and when the car got to 20psi it was still running 8 degrees of timing, So it did not drop timing per psi of boost. Transitions from 1 load column to another were not smooth as there was no interpolation between columns.
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