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Old May 1, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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very minor adjustments might be needed. if the injectors where scaled perfectly like stock, ie 0% fuel trims, then no adjustments to the fuel map will be needed.
now, it turns out the the scaling of my injectors is on the lean side (-2%). so if you want, you can richen up the WOT sections of your fuel map by 0.1 points, or lower the scaling to 590.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Now turns out getting 750 injectors...

What are the scaling for 750 injectors?

Last edited by Oracle1; May 9, 2007 at 12:01 PM.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Old May 10, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Oracle1
I dunno, but i switched from e85 back to pump (93), im having a hell of a time getting the 750s dialed in.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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I used this settings and I am also more or less the same values. My O2 fluctuates between +/- 6 and my trims are 0.

This is for the PTEs 780.

4.69 3.504
7.03 2.184
9.38 1.224
11.72 0.96
14.06 0.744
16.41 0.552
18.68 0.432


injector scaling 696

cpoevo,

Thanks for sharing your hard work!

Originally Posted by cpoevo
I changed the injector size to 696. The fuel trims are near perfect.
LTFT Low 0
LTFT Mid 0
O2 FB +/- 4
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Glad they worked for you. I have a set of 680's I might do the same thing with and get a good base setting for people to start with.

I spent about 40 hours of different injector sizes and latencies to get those perfect. I also noticed that cam gear settings will affect your fuel trims.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Anyone have more info on 750 injectors or should I be hunting for the 680 injectors?
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Old May 12, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by joedr
I used this settings and I am also more or less the same values. My O2 fluctuates between +/- 6 and my trims are 0.

This is for the PTEs 780.

4.69 3.504
7.03 2.184
9.38 1.224
11.72 0.96
14.06 0.744
16.41 0.552
18.68 0.432


injector scaling 696

cpoevo,

Thanks for sharing your hard work!

Im going to give this a try tonight when i get home.. Im hoping it helps out!!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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update???
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jordo
Im going to give this a try tonight when i get home.. Im hoping it helps out!!
I think I may try it for kicks as well. I have the 780's from BR scaled to 713 right now.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Oracle, I'd try 713 since our scaling is different to the US cars.

Adjust it up or down to near zero the cruise fuel trim.

Let it warm idle and change the entire block of latencies up or down by 0.24ms to near zero the idle fuel trim.

Only then consider using any boost, start with wastegate pressure only (zero duty) and check the AFR. Then build up through intermediate levels. If it is lean, lift off the throttle. You or a passenger needs to watch an AFR gauge, no use driving the car hard whilst logging and checking afterwards, more than a few seconds running lean can result in engine damage. Running really rich - eg richer than 10:1, certainly 9:1 may bog the car and cause misfires.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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I'm working on getting my trims in check when i noticed something...
I got 272 cams and my idle is set at 970 so it kind of goes up and down in that area. My ign map is stock in this load (round 40) and rpm. So when it idles, advance fluctuates between 5 and 12. That would mean that afr's fluctuate all the time as well, which in turn makes STFT's work overtime...and might mess the low LTFT's a bit.
So changing that part of map will probably make for more consistent idle stft's and maybe smoother idle?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by joedr
I used this settings and I am also more or less the same values. My O2 fluctuates between +/- 6 and my trims are 0.

This is for the PTEs 780.

4.69 3.504
7.03 2.184
9.38 1.224
11.72 0.96
14.06 0.744
16.41 0.552
18.68 0.432


injector scaling 696

cpoevo,

Thanks for sharing your hard work!

I tried those settings, they are VERY VERY close..

The low/mid trim is right now. which is wonderful!!
my WOT was only about 5 percent off..

Thank you again for the settings.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Kudos to cpoevo for sharing the settings.

Originally Posted by jordo
I tried those settings, they are VERY VERY close..

The low/mid trim is right now. which is wonderful!!
my WOT was only about 5 percent off..

Thank you again for the settings.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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has anyone in here tuned there car for denso 720's, if so, what did you come up w/?thanks
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