You & Your Wideband & Evoscan
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From: Jeanette near Pittsburgh
You & Your Wideband & Evoscan
Well evoscan has been able to use wideband input for awhile now.
I am curious to people's experience with various products.
I know this info is kind of scattered and in an effort to concentrate it, please post the following if you have experience.
1) Name of Product Used
2) Ease of set-up
3) Ease of Integration with Evoscan
4) Consistency of Results with Evoscan
5) Reliability
6) Regrets regarding your choice in products
I dont feel this belongs in the "review" forum simply because I am searching for information directly pertaining to Evoscan and its ability to integrate wideband input into its logs.
I am curious to people's experience with various products.
I know this info is kind of scattered and in an effort to concentrate it, please post the following if you have experience.
1) Name of Product Used
2) Ease of set-up
3) Ease of Integration with Evoscan
4) Consistency of Results with Evoscan
5) Reliability
6) Regrets regarding your choice in products
I dont feel this belongs in the "review" forum simply because I am searching for information directly pertaining to Evoscan and its ability to integrate wideband input into its logs.
I purchaced LC1 (Innovate) for less than $200
Very touchy with calibrating and finding it's operating environment but once I found it, very reliable unit.
Overall happy with it, 300 logs in less than one month.
My installation was slightly unconventional but was less than a day of work - I run a self modified OEM catback, I pulled out the rear O2 sensor, wrapped steel safety wire around heater ( to pull heat away from sensor), enclosed the mass in a empty poppy seed glass bottle, and wraped insulated mox tape so it can rest under pass seat (ghetto seat heater). The LC1 is designed for outside but that also rest under seat where I routed the grommet sealed sensor harness out through hole to factor O2 bung.
Very touchy with calibrating and finding it's operating environment but once I found it, very reliable unit.
Overall happy with it, 300 logs in less than one month.
My installation was slightly unconventional but was less than a day of work - I run a self modified OEM catback, I pulled out the rear O2 sensor, wrapped steel safety wire around heater ( to pull heat away from sensor), enclosed the mass in a empty poppy seed glass bottle, and wraped insulated mox tape so it can rest under pass seat (ghetto seat heater). The LC1 is designed for outside but that also rest under seat where I routed the grommet sealed sensor harness out through hole to factor O2 bung.
Zeitronix ZT2
fairly easy to set up
Easy to integrate with EvoScan
EvoScan reads from the ZT2 consistently however it only reads AFR, and not boost, egt, or user input.
It is pretty reliable but once in a while it crashes. The is attributable to only the zt2 as it never crashes when I am not logging with the ZT2
No regrets
fairly easy to set up
Easy to integrate with EvoScan
EvoScan reads from the ZT2 consistently however it only reads AFR, and not boost, egt, or user input.
It is pretty reliable but once in a while it crashes. The is attributable to only the zt2 as it never crashes when I am not logging with the ZT2
No regrets
Zeitronix ZT2
fairly easy to set up
Easy to integrate with EvoScan
EvoScan reads from the ZT2 consistently however it only reads AFR, and not boost, egt, or user input.
It is pretty reliable but once in a while it crashes. The is attributable to only the zt2 as it never crashes when I am not logging with the ZT2
No regrets
fairly easy to set up
Easy to integrate with EvoScan
EvoScan reads from the ZT2 consistently however it only reads AFR, and not boost, egt, or user input.
It is pretty reliable but once in a while it crashes. The is attributable to only the zt2 as it never crashes when I am not logging with the ZT2
No regrets
1) AEM Uego
2) Plug and Play install, routed o2 sensor through factory o2 sensor hole in passenger side floor panel (tight fit to push the AEM through with the factory wire running in there). I added an o2 bung and run a total of 3 o2's front / rear w/CEL fix / wideband.
3) Had to make serial cable and use serial to USB converter because my laptop doesnt have a serial port to log in evoscan. Used existing serial cable and cut end off and connected 2 wires. Note instructions are for a male connector but you will be attaching a female connector so make sure you do the right pins. Check continuity if you use a serial cable to make sure you have the right wires.
4) Seems accurate. I dont have another one to check the accuracy of this one.
5) Have only had it installed for 2 months. Looks nice and works.
6) None yet. Not compatible with mitsulogger yet.
2) Plug and Play install, routed o2 sensor through factory o2 sensor hole in passenger side floor panel (tight fit to push the AEM through with the factory wire running in there). I added an o2 bung and run a total of 3 o2's front / rear w/CEL fix / wideband.
3) Had to make serial cable and use serial to USB converter because my laptop doesnt have a serial port to log in evoscan. Used existing serial cable and cut end off and connected 2 wires. Note instructions are for a male connector but you will be attaching a female connector so make sure you do the right pins. Check continuity if you use a serial cable to make sure you have the right wires.
4) Seems accurate. I dont have another one to check the accuracy of this one.
5) Have only had it installed for 2 months. Looks nice and works.
6) None yet. Not compatible with mitsulogger yet.
Last edited by Mr. Evo IX; Feb 23, 2007 at 07:42 PM. Reason: added some details
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I have the tool I need to fix the RPM issue, and Nolimit Motorsport will be providing the AEM Wideband to write the code for, so I'm hoping I can get a v1.6 beta out this upcoming week. It has a ton of bugfixes, the one thing I didn't get to was the multiple FTDI device issue, but I should be able to get that taken care of also.
you won't see a 2.0 version until I release Unilogger as its an entire new code base.
you won't see a 2.0 version until I release Unilogger as its an entire new code base.
1) Innovative LC-1
2) Pretty easy to set up, took a couple hours to route the wires etc
3) Plug it in and go..
4) Results seem to be pretty consistant.
5) A few times EVOScan would not read the LC-1 and I would have to reboot the computer to get it to work again. This hasn't happend since formatting the laptop.
6) I should have got a Zeitronix. Its ability to log boost and EGT pretty much out of the box is great. I have to purchase a $300+ of equipment to log boost/EGT in addition to the $200 the LC-1 costs..
2) Pretty easy to set up, took a couple hours to route the wires etc
3) Plug it in and go..
4) Results seem to be pretty consistant.
5) A few times EVOScan would not read the LC-1 and I would have to reboot the computer to get it to work again. This hasn't happend since formatting the laptop.
6) I should have got a Zeitronix. Its ability to log boost and EGT pretty much out of the box is great. I have to purchase a $300+ of equipment to log boost/EGT in addition to the $200 the LC-1 costs..
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An LMA-3 is $200, but provides five inputs and includes the MAP sensor and two axis of accel (for better road dyno numbers).
We actually sell the LC-1 w/SSI-4 for $299. This is $20 more than a Zeitronix unit, but the SSI-4 can take RPM from ignition sources, the inputs can be repurposed, etc. and the LC-1 itself is a dramatically faster instrument. But even buying the pieces individually, I don't see how you came up with 300+.
-jjf