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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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my a/f & timing

what do you guys think about these numbers with my mods mentioned below running at 20psi boost on 91oct. im new to the whole tuning world be easy this tune wasnt performed by me....also im thinking about buying some hks gears how should i compensate for these???

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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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OMG!

i am sorry, there is no easy way to say it, so i am not going to....
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Old May 14, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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actually, thinking about this a little more, this looks like one of AL's tunes. It does not seem to be set up for stock injectors, and possibly not stock turbo. are you sure the mods in your sig are correct.

here is a map with same mods as yours with an intake and fuel pump. set up on 91 octane, 21psi, and 11.0 afr.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ddubdb3
what do you guys think about these numbers with my mods mentioned below running at 20psi boost on 91oct. im new to the whole tuning world be easy this tune wasnt performed by me....also im thinking about buying some hks gears how should i compensate for these???
This tune is a DISASTER. Block tuning is a sign of a lazy tuner who does not want to take the time to match the rpm and load points. This one is OVER the top. Almost the entire map is block tuned wuth 555555555555555. WTF is that?

You actually paid money for this crap? Who did this tune? The tuner who did this should be exposed for the charlatan that he is.

Forget about the cam gears. Flash you car back to stock and start all over again.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by elhalisf
actually, thinking about this a little more, this looks like one of AL's tunes. It does not seem to be set up for stock injectors, and possibly not stock turbo. are you sure the mods in your sig are correct.

here is a map with same mods as yours with an intake and fuel pump. set up on 91 octane, 21psi, and 11.0 afr.
There is too much timing advance @ peak boost/torque in the map that you posted. IMO, 9 or 7* of advanced timing does not work on 91 octane map unless you are running WAY WAY rich.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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It may be block tuned but the numbers do not appear to be insane. The only problem I see is the large timing shift from 8* to 15* up top. That may cause some knock.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Seriously thats ugly. The block of 5's IS lazy.

WHAT THE HELL is that row of 19.6's doing in your high octane map? Are you serious? What is that, some type of run lean condition for freeway driving or something? Thats HORRIBLE. I would ditch that fuel map immediately. The timing you could live with, its just not optimal.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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block timing, abrupt timing shifts at high rpm etc... it looks amateur. Hopefully you didn't pay for that.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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This is the standard timing map that i use on 91




this one is without cams. ddubdb3, notice the timing difference at idle?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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yea i purchased the car used so it had this tune on it..so i didnt pay for it but im planning on getting it tuned or tryto fix it myself. i looked at the flash and no way all the 5s seemed right at all to me. i purchased it with the cams and upper ic only. and the person i bought it off of buys cars from this auction down in the la area and resells them so he had no clue any mods where on it...what do you guys suggest i do??
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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yea my car has these mods but i swear it doesnt feel much faster then a stock 8... i wanna unleash the beast!!! help me out before something goes bad thanks guys
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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then it makes sense.
i am now sure that it is a dynoflash tune with 680cc injectors and a possible 20G turbo.
you should be thankfull your car didn't blow up. your probably knocking like no tomorrow.
i would suggest you flash it back to a stock map IMMEDIATLEY.

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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ddubdb3
yea my car has these mods but i swear it doesnt feel much faster then a stock 8... i wanna unleash the beast!!! help me out before something goes bad thanks guys


it's simple, get it tuned
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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does anyone have maps with mods similar to mine that their willing to share????until i can get a true tune??
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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If I where you I would load the stock EVO8 fuel and timing map and simply tune the AFR. Leave timing alone since you are on 91.
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